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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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does anyone know much about these, id rather ask on here than the skyline forums as idproberbly get more info from here lol

im looking into gettinga r32 gtr, just wondering if anyone knows what to look out for on them, iknow the r32 can suffer with oil pump problems, and some rust but is there anything else

ive been told that 70k is coming to its end of the life aswell, how true i dont know

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It doesn't matter if you're looking at 32s, 33s or 34s, in my experience they'll cost you a LOT to run and maintain
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Old Oct 22, 2008 | 08:32 PM
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and so did my cossie lol

reason i want one, is they can take a bit more abuse than a cosworth in std form

plus there easy to get 400bhp out of lol and i know the gearbox will last
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which would cost more to run tho??? a cossie or a skyline? (and hasnt the supra got the same engine as skyline minus the 4wd??)
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i had an r33 gtr recently.
liked a lot of things but found it small and uncomfortable inside.
loved its looks,power delivery and noise,but i wouldnt have another one-and im not really sure why i wouldnt....
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i think they would be on par with ruuning costs tbh

plus the cossie bits are hard and expensive to get hold of nowdays, and the only cossie id have again will be an escort

the skyline its easy to get 400bhp from, as you can do it ona stock engine with a couple of upgrades, the transmission is loads stronger and can take a bit of abuse now and then lol

id like an r33 but i dont think ill be able to afford one unless one comes along at a nice price, so im tempted to go with the r32 which is the lighter out the 3 anyhow

dont mind small cars inside as im only small anyhow lol
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Wasn't Stavros banging on about a turbo change for a genuine 400bhp or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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NO AND NO
The skyline uses a 2.6 rb engine and the supra use's a 3 liter 2jzgte completly different!
supra lump being stronger!
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Me mates selling his
He's had it for about 2 years and drives it hard (as do every owner) It still running std spec and has never missed a beat and he has kicked its ass a few times.
He's mate on the other hand has just bought one as well. Had a few probs and took it to Abbey Motorsport who put it down to the Coilpacks which set him back a monkey. The following week it let go!!!
So, theres two skylines running stock spec
1 has been sweet as
1 has been a nightmare
Oh and the nightmare one was a seamingly well looked after car costing 7k
The other one is a weekend car which gets its ass kicked on round-abouts in essex most saturday nights. He's looking for 4k
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Originally Posted by bbspolo
NO AND NO
The skyline uses a 2.6 rb engine and the supra use's a 3 liter 2jzgte completly different!
supra lump being stronger!
I stand corrected
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Gtr For 4K Pm Me his number mate...

Cant go wrong in my opinion, im a big lad and dont find it small inside.

Love the looks love the power and as long as you buy a nice one it is a million times more reliable than a cossie.

You do have to get steel turbos at least for a genuine 400 but will instantly be over 400 if you buy the turbos anyway.

Gearboxes are seriously strong up to 500 hp and so is the rest of the car really.

Mine is driven hard everywhere but its also looked after with regular oil changes. Just had a new exeddy 6 paddle fitted at 500 quid all in.

snakes off the line and is amazing handling round the twisties

Best car ive ever owned and ive had A lot.

I will be getting hks turbos and the headgasket done with a few other bits and should see the magic 500. To do that in a 4x4 saff cossie you gotta spend some serious dough and they still handle like shit.

Still keep getting this feeling to buy an escos though lol.
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gtrs arnt selling and you can get a bargain so ive seen

yes steel turbos etc are the way to go but id wait until something does actually go wrong, no doubt it will i just want to know what are the main things to look at on them
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yes there are some bargains out there at the moment but its like a cossie. If you buy low you will pay in the long run.

They are good cars mate, get out there and buy one. Rons got a 440HP at 1.1 bar freshly rebuilt one for 8k. its a bit rough around the edges but would make a nice car.
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
i think they would be on par with ruuning costs tbh

plus the cossie bits are hard and expensive to get hold of nowdays, and the only cossie id have again will be an escort

the skyline its easy to get 400bhp from, as you can do it ona stock engine with a couple of upgrades, the transmission is loads stronger and can take a bit of abuse now and then lol

id like an r33 but i dont think ill be able to afford one unless one comes along at a nice price, so im tempted to go with the r32 which is the lighter out the 3 anyhow

dont mind small cars inside as im only small anyhow lol
a yb is easy to get 400 bhp to will get it with less boost on a skyline though so will be under less strain and last longer in theory.
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
a yb is easy to get 400 bhp to will get it with less boost on a skyline though so will be under less strain and last longer in theory.
less boost?!?!?!?

er no mate....
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Originally Posted by bbspolo
NO AND NO
The skyline uses a 2.6 rb engine and the supra use's a 3 liter 2jzgte completly different!
supra lump being stronger!

and to add the supra engine is a lexus one is it not ?
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Originally Posted by stonehavencossie
and to add the supra engine is a lexus one is it not ?
Its a Toyota engine.

Lexus is Toyota.

Soarers and other stuff had similar versions. none exactly the same I dont think
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Yer i think some used the same block and heads but thats as far as it goes!
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Get on here www.skylineowners.com good site.
32gtr good but old, can run RWD only with the drive fuse pulled
33gtr good but weighs more, can't run rwd only

Its a bit of pot luck with getting one. Most will run fine and do 100K but if it shows low oil pressure then its likly to drop the bottom end at some point. Oil pressure senders fail and give a false reading.
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Originally Posted by stonehavencossie
and to add the supra engine is a lexus one is it not ?
seeing as toyota and lexus are the same company and that they offer one of their lexus range with the supra engine in twin turbo form, then i wuld say yes, they could possibly be the same engine
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Its a Toyota engine.

Lexus is Toyota.

Soarers and other stuff had similar versions. none exactly the same I dont think
ok smart arses

i did know that

what i meant was one that was used in a lexus model previously
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Originally Posted by stonehavencossie
ok smart arses

Why was I being a smart ass?

merely answering your question...


Originally Posted by stonehavencossie
i did know that

what i meant was one that was used in a lexus model previously

Nope.
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Why was I being a smart ass?

merely answering your question...





Nope.

fair enuff
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400bhp ina cossie is expensive lol, turbo, injectors,bit of headwork, plus all the other crap, then clucth and gearbox, espcially on a 4wd lol

skyline i think can its around 14psi of boost to hit the 400 mark or just a bit more
obviously with the rite othe rbits aswell, this is what ive read and heard

ive seen r33 gtr goe for as little as 5k

but thers taying mainly around the 8k at the minute for nice ones ive seen
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Originally Posted by xr4x4rs
400bhp ina cossie is expensive lol, turbo, injectors,bit of headwork, plus all the other crap, then clucth and gearbox, espcially on a 4wd lol

skyline i think can its around 14psi of boost to hit the 400 mark or just a bit more
obviously with the rite othe rbits aswell, this is what ive read and heard

ive seen r33 gtr goe for as little as 5k

but thers taying mainly around the 8k at the minute for nice ones ive seen
no headwork needed, but agree on everything else.

having owned 2 GTR's though... my god they can be a pain in the ass!!!!!

far far far more sosphicated and better as a road car than a Cossie though in my experience.

Fuel bills apart a nice R33GTR makes a lovely everyday car. Fun, practical, awesome value for money, good looking....

BUT a meeting with big bill is always just around the corner and thats always in your mind!

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are they much bigger than a 3dr? they "look" it but not really compared the two together.
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Shoot me down for saying but....

Isnt a 400bhp cossie quicker than a 400bhp skyline by virtue of its weigh disadvantage?? So by you trying to acheive 400bhp, you will actually be driving a slower car?

Saying that Rich.....I think after your experiences you just want something reliable???
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400 brake from a cossie is more expensive and not as reliable as 400 brake from a skyline is i thinkwhat the point stave etc were making
to go beyond this you still need lots of money but on the skyline you just bolt on a decent turboto break this thershold, on the cossie you need to do lots more, therefore the cossie gets less and less reliable the further up the power scale you go compared to the skyline
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ian you are correct

my last cossie just gave me major problems and i had enough of it

dont get me wrong i almost bought another but had to pull back and think do i really want another headache lol

if i can get enough cash together ill get an r33 as i like them better than r32,but i think my budget is going to be with a r32

i can see what your saying about the weight issue yes the cossie will proberbly be quicker, but it carnt launch aswell as the skyline and you carnt beat the sound a skyline makes when on full chat lol

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i know they have there troubles but its like most old cars nowdays i supose, on the plus side my nearest skyline tuners is about 500 yards from my house, its that close i could walk there lol, so at least i wouldnt have to travel half the uk to get the car looked at

by the end of next week i know what my budget is to getting one, can possibly goa bit more if i sell my mondeo, but im trying to save for my bike test and bike aswell

i just want something reliable, well more reliable than a cossie anyhow
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Had an r32 gtr and an r33gtr great cars altho did find my 33 cost more than the cossie to run
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Mate please show me the link to a GTR R33 for 5K im itching to buy it.

Everything else is right.

as for the bhp I think you have to be carefull with pub figures though, i raced someone in a cossie that claims he has 400hp and is on light blues and it was pretty easily beat and that was with me having a slipping clutch, and mine is not 400 BHP

Petrol is sick in a gtr though take my word for it. £70 quid fills it with optimax and that does 200 miles. and thats with some motorway miles.

I was completely anti jap a few years back but once you have driven one they are so far superior to a saff its untrue.

Speak to ron he has a 440HP at 1.1 Bar for sale at the moment which he built 6 months ago Very cheap at 8K

I personally think a cosie sounds better on full chat

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it was sold mate

well 5500 it was advertised for

http://www.skylineowners.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=96692
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rediculously cheap, thats a serious bargain depending on just how bad it was. midnight purple aswell, i wish i saw it

Oh well cant buy them all.

i wouldnt pay less than 8k for one and dont think they are all nice at that money.

You might find a nice one at that price, i looked at 10 before i bought mine.

if i had my time again i would spend about 12 and get a 500 hp one. it costs so much more modifying a standard one like i am.
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id rather have a standard one so i have something to work with tbh

i have my eye ona silver one at 6.5k or one that needs the engine fitting for 5.2k

i dont mind getting my hands dirty so can do most things myself and then go get it checked out by my local specialists
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please go and look at these cars mate. make sure you start it from cold and have a listen.

6.5K is very cheap. If you are going to struggle to buy a 6.5k R33 then i wouldnt bother, They are expensive to run. Especially when youre trying to buy at the bottom end of the market.

Also when you go and look at the cheap ones watch the oil pressure gauge if its sitting unrealistically high then the needle has been moved for a reason.

I set a bausget of 10k and every one i saw under 8k were absoloubt turd. Most written off at some point or knocking.

at least 4 of the 10, even a 10k one were knocking on start up.

Very hard to trust the mileage aswell when youre trying to buy one as cheap as you are.

bear in mind if you buy a standard one then the wheels need changing strieght away as they look shit, that will set you back about 2K strieght away.

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/101801-mi...e-r33-gtr.html

this is the sort you wanna be buying.

same sort of condition as mine. But it really is a buyers market at the moment. Thats why there are not many about as no one is selling. Seeing 34s at the moment for 20K.
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or this ones worth a look

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/106308-19...gs-7795-a.html
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i have seen that one, but it is out my price range

hence i was asking about r32s, but i prefer r33s lol

if i do go for a r33 then i know it will be bottom of the market, but im not going to know until i go look at a few

i havnt even driven one yet so may not even like how they drive, i drove a r34 gtr and tbh i wasnt impressed and that was 440bhp but there was something about it that i didnt like and carnt put my finger on it, proberbly too smooth i dont know lol
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Mate of mine just got a R33 GTR for 15k, Proper Fresh built engine,5k (Built by specialist Cant remember who) with Pictures and £10k bill :O Midnight purple, Its a proper minter.... Dyno sheets to prove 550 odd bhp

The car is awsome... Awsome fun... Even if the clutch is a bitch to get used to!
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if you was local i would have let you have a go. I think they are quite impressive and ive had some pretty powerful cars.

Now the paddle is in its good fun off the line.

The best bit i like is 1st at about 3k then hammering it, sticks you in the seat. Really want the turbos next though then the possibilities are endless.

once you buy the hks turbos under 1k at the moment (unfitted) and then head gasket and some cams, fuel pump and a few other bits you can start on the 600hp mark.

Youre pushing the standard internals at that point though.

I wanna just break 500hp and ill be happy till it goes pop then the serious stuff will begin
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