Hi all, just out of interest...does anyone know the 1/4 mile time for a modern day formula1 car?

and what times for...

0-60?
0-100?

 

In 1986 Road and Track tested the Benetton B186 BMW formula 1 car.

The car was driven by Teo Fabi, and R&T used special test equipment to get the figures.
The car was tested at Siverstone with appropriate gearing. The turbocharged engine used race boost - 3.7 bar 850 bhp at 11,000 rpm

The following figures were obtain:

Top speed
194 mph at 11, 300 rpm

Acceleration
0 - 60 3.0
0 - 100 4.8
0 - 120 5.6
0 - 140 6.8
0 - 160 8.4
0 - 175 10.0
SS 1/4 9.4 at 169 mph

The top timed top speed for the car in 1986 was
218.238 mph at Monza (5.4 bar boost was observed)

not aware of any recent tests, to specifically establish such

 

Interesting info there mate, nice one!

I think a modern day formula 1 car will accelerate to 60mph in around 1.9seconds!

 

current f1 cars weigh around 600kgs and their engiens make inexcess of 850 brake, so it';s going to shift

 

Its a bit more than that
This years Mclaren MP4-23 has some 'published' performance figures which are not so much astounding as simply mind-boggling. Zero to 60mph time: 2.3 seconds; 0-100mph, 3.6 seconds; 0-100-0mph, 6.6 seconds. Perhaps the most incredible statistic is the braking: 185-0mph happens in just 3.5 seconds

The spec interestingly has an Engine weight of 95kg (minimum FIA regulation weight), 32 valves, 19,000 max rpm, and runs on Mobil 1 Unleaded with 5.75% of that being bio fuel

im not aware of a recent public test to specially support these performance claims or any performance claims made by another f1 team

 

some interesting figures and replies, thanks.

 

I remember watching a programme a few weeks ago about F1 cars, and they had to remove the turbos cos they were deemed too dangerous!! The braking figures above are impressive

 

The figures are (for the 2005 Renault R25):0 to 100 km/h: 1.9 seconds
0 to 200 km/h: 3.9 seconds
0 to 300 km/h: 8.4 seconds, may be slightly more or less depending on the aerodynamic setup.
The acceleration figure is usually 1.4 g (14 m/s²) up to 200 km/h, which means the driver is pushed back in the seat with 1.4 times his bodyweight

 

I thought the engine's were now around the 750bhp mark? They reduced it significantly when they went from V10's to V8's?

Stunning braking figure indeed, imagine the G Force, is it not around 3.5g for a driver under braking now!?

Nice copy and paste from Tony (TSM's) post?

 

Some very very impressive figures there.........

 

i know, i was gonna thank him for his info but i was to lazy

 

5.4 bar boost want me some of that thats 70 odd psi of boost

 

boost junkie lol

 

Brother works for an F1 supplier and reckoned turbos were coming back really soon, be interesting.

 

yeah if they are attached to a diesel!

no chance they will bring back petrol turbo cars IMO. they are trying to limit
the power as they are!

When Jenson button did that 1/4 mile drag race for 5th gear.
im sure he did a 9 second 1/4 mile in the Honda F1 car.
I THINK that was V10 though


EDIT with vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dGEgEJyM6g



you think Suberbikes are quick Look at the slow mo of the 3rd race!
how quick does that F1 car pull away from the bike

 

Well his sources were right on a couple of other changes, will wait and see.

 

the turbo discussion was a rumor which circulated around the time of the early KERS developments. The energy recovered by these systems will be available at the press of a button give the car a 'boost' some of the press stated this gave the car a 'turbo boost' which is why some people think turbos are going to make a come back.
I personally doubt that F1 will ever go back to the turbo simply as they are attempting to reduce costs. The latest suggestion put to the teams by the FIA is a single engine which is re-badged but identical. A large proportion of F1 costs are the engine's and as the FIA wish to make them last longer than two races for cost reasons any suggestions regarding turbos are laughable.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/180920...f1-engine.html

 

The V10 formula 1 cars accelerated faster than the actual V8 cars. 0-60 was clocked in 2.2sec (Ferrari F2004), its all I remember. Of course, because they had more than 900bhp (Williams were the first to get the 900bhp/19'000rpm barrier at Monza and it was quite amazing at that time). I also remember when the engineers tested the first V8 engines, Cosworth had their rev limiter set to 22'000rpm before the FIA cut that to 19'000 (stupid them).

 

i stand corrected

700-780 brake from a 2.4 V8

as opposed to around the 960 brake from the restricted 3.0 v10 at 19,000 rpm



but button was still in a slow car compared to the rest of the field when that race was run plus he had no launch control so he could have done at least a 8.5 1/4 if he'd had decent machenery

 

The fastest ever recorded speed for a F1 car was a Honda/BAR at the end of 2005, set an FIA ratified record of 400 km/h (249 mph) on a one way run on 21 July 2006 at Bonneville Salt Flats. On this occasion the car did not fully meet FIA Formula One regulations, as it used a moveable aerodynamic rudder for stability control, breaching article 3.15 of the 2006 Formula One technical regulations which states that any specific part of the car influencing its aerodynamic performance must be rigidly secured

 

As all F1 cars are underweight and carry ballast it has been confirmed by the FIA in 2006 that all F1 cars have a power to weight ratio of at least 1000 hp per ton. Theoretically this would allow the car to hit 60 mph in less than 1 second. However the massive power cannot be converted to motion at low speeds due to traction loss and the aerodynamics do not come into effect until the car is moving

 

I spoke to an old danish F1 driver Nicolas Kiesa about one time he was out on a stint, they had set up an speed camera @ 100m mark up to a 60km/h speedtrap, and villneuve had the record @ 316km/h........ @ the 100m mark....... JESUS!!!
If it was me i would think my head fel off LOL

 

I was at Honda Racing F1 when we did the Bonneville400 - the rudder was a safety feature during testing - it was basically a gyro controlled system that if the car went into a drift - the rudder would compensate without the driver having any steering input. Mainly because Alans visor went opaque due to the salt 'salt blasting' it...

For the actual run the rudder was locked off as i remember, to allow it to pass certain FIA regulations.

There was some discussion as to how 'legal' it was as we didn't run a rear wing for the attempt.

But it did average over 400 kmph across the two runs.

If the site is still up it was www.bonneville400.com

 

how horny does tht F1 car sound,ummmmmmm

 

Agreed, that bit from 2.10 onwards

 

that vid is anazing tiiff reports after 100m jenson can get the power down

 

Who said anything about petrol? It'll be bio-eth or meth if they do.

850 hp from a 1.5l engine aint bad (supposedly cosworth got +1000 when using a turbo expander) and I'm quite sure that it would do a lot of researching into downsizing the IC engine which the manufacturers could then apply to road relevant technologies. Especially with GDI and other technologies being available these days. Personally I expect the turbo's to be coming back by 2015, probably on 1L engines.

The head of M-Benz HPE said that they are well over the 300hp/l figure. so thats starting at 720hp+. How far "well" means, he wouldn't answer.

JAmes.

 

Turbo engines will never make a comeback while the FIA are looking at reducing costs, the amount of additional stress created by a high revving forced induction engine increases the cost of an engine. We have seen evidence of the FIA considering things such as a single 'manufacturer badged engine' along with engines lasting multiple races and nothing to suggest that turbos are being considered once again, that era has passed along with launch control.

I doubt F1 will ever use meth as a fuel for the simple reasons of safety and since methanol vapour is heavier than air, it will linger close to the ground or in a pit and if the concentration of methanol is above 6.7% in air it can be lit by a spark, Once ablaze, the flames give out very little light making it very hard to see the fire or even estimate its size, especially in bright daylight.

The future focus on forumula 1 will be renewable energy sources, such as KERS. The FIA have already stated that they plan to expand the amount of recovered energy the car is permitted to store from such a device for later use, in effect looking towards a dual fuel F1 car

 

I was at Williams earlier this week. Current braking forces are 5.4g from 200mph to 100mph, and their Honda turbo engine saw a maximum of 1586bhp in qualifying trim.

 

im curious as to know if they used FIA regulated F1 spec tyres for the run, the tyres seem to have been forgotten in a lot of the documentation, were they still nitrogen filled ?

 

If that's true then it's just fucking mind-boggling!

This is what F1 should be all about! Acting and thinking like young boys, getting excited about the cars and being mesmorised by how they perform! Not all this fucking politics and points gained off the track all the time!

 

Good thread !!

Any links where I can read up on the turbocharged eria of F1, all the testing & proto-typing etc ??

jb

 

Very well said !!

 

A - Fucking - MEN!!!

 

here is another interesting question what was the most dominant F1 car ever built, anyone know ? ( I do )

 

I reckon it's either the old Marlboro McLaren or possible Schumi's Ferrari?

 

The red one ??

 

Yes - McLaren MP4-4

14 wins from 15 starts gets it IIRC


*just had a look it 15 wins from 16 starts - doh!

Honda v6 1.5T 1200bhp iirc aswel

 

Fair play and correct answer

 

Yeah the second time!

but they did have 2 of the best drivers ever to grace the scene driving for them!