just put a 60 m airtec rad in the cos. when i got old rad out its a pace 50mm ! the bars the water run through are 3 times bigger on airtec ! i had one other cossie that used to get to 93 c on 165 plus runs and that was pace too ! imo pace are utter crap !

 

What temps is the Airtec seeing in comparison?

 

gotta pick the car up from the yard later and try it. im confident theyl be reduced though. il post on here later once ive tryed it

 

one thing i did notice temps come down much quicker when fans comes in from 92 down to 83 in half the time roughly !

 

How old was the pace rad and when was the last time it had a flush?

 

dunno but i do know the only 2 cossies ive had that run abit hotter have had pace rads !

 

I wasnt trying to fault your findings, just wanted to know if they had been tested in the same way.

I have a Pro Alloy one at home that looks nice in the shed.

 

i had a rad tec which ran about 120 on a warm day during a race it was only single core then put a pace 3 core in and it went 95 on during a hard race on warm day

 

ive just fitted a pace rad and the car runs alot cooler over standard rad

 

so youve experienced pace as being better than radtec ?

 

When TOTD, tested all the major players they had "interesting" results.
They now use AIRTEC, I think I know why.
At the end of the day it is largely about surface area, and decent enough flow and obviously the Airtec is getting it done.
My i'cooler temps were very low when on rollers last week, even after 3 to 4 hours.
tabetha

 

Im in need of a ali rad soon but im now confused about which one to get ?

 

Funny that done more Topspeed runs at greater speeds than any other Cossie & mine uses a Pace 50mm radiator. Never suffered from any probs with water temps whatsoever, in the car since 1999.
Maybe just maybe you are blaming a component, when your problems lie elsewhere, certainly would not replace a Pace with an Airtec .

Next step up from Pace is AH Fabrications.

 

airtec are ok, but they look like bricks...

i have a airtec turbo cooler, and tbh, its a good product, but it isnt "nice" sharp edges, poiny corners, and sooo heavy

 

il know at 9.30 tonight. but if youve got one rod then maybe mine is just old and fucked !

 

when you look inside an airtec they can fan flow alot more water than a pace thats for sure.

 

flow isn't everything, if it flows water through it faster, the water has less time to cool down when it's in there

 

i dont see at all your 93 degs being a problem

exactally

well the water has less time to warm the rad

 

il be on at bout 10 with the result

 

If you compare all the aftermarket rads on the market to standard o/e rads you can see they all use the same kind of tube size for the cores for water rads and different ones for I/C's

and along come Airtec using the same cores for I/C and rads does that not indicate anything?

Don't want to get into the "I sell" "they sell" or any argument just a genuine question.

 

good point... it does radiate heat after all

by the way... do you glow in the dark?

 

I have a pace one to be fitted to my car intresting thread

 

well just got back highest temp was 85 c and that was off the limiter 1,2,3,4 and a good pull in 5th. would of been way over 90 on the pace then had a blast about and 75 c constant. tryed a full bore launch again oh well diff went pop again !

 

Good news on the rad,cunty news on the diff m8.

 

rad is sooo much better its unbelievable ive learnt now i have to much power for launching on standard diff only done it twice and done 2 diffs

 

id reckomend an airtec 60mm rad to anyone better flow means better cooling my cars just proved it

 

very scientific test (not) the only way to test any thing of this manor is to put it in a controlled enviroment (a test cell not a all day long rolling road) o and i didnt know they had worked out a way to pass air through a brick lol, also if i remember rightly the cosy motor is ment to run at 92 deg c ,and to cold is just as bad as to hot and if it runs to cold when you start nailing it you may well cause hot spots in the motor which in term is bad new sooner or later, it also makes me laught as people say the core is this and that the is a relation between air passing through a rad and the water passing through inside,and people test rads against each other and say x is better than y but the thing is that x supply y with there cores and by saying some of these rad and i coolers are better than makes like pro alloy and pace must mean that sharp edges are best(lol) hay maybe if i machine out my ports on my head to look like the shape of a brick that would work better than smooth flowing edges!!! thought not. at the end of the day if you buy cheap you will get heavy bricks but it you put your hand in your deep pockets then you will get quailty that WORK . maybe i wll test my car right now and compare it to your test that would be so accurate (not) anyway after that good luck with your hunt for a 2 deg c water temp at 300 mph. lol

 

get out more
he's only giving his opinion to help others out

 

if you cant see that as a fair test you must be thick ! same car everything the same except rad, my temps went 92 plus no matter what the weather was so test is relative. 2 deg at 300 mph what a twat !

 

LOL, i would have said piss taker rather that twat but who cares, o just 1 Q" if the rad is so crap as your great test ???? shows then should you not be binning it rather than selling it on? but then again it did work.

 

Have you seen his car? I have a slight hunch Lacey knows what he's on about...

You even said yourself maybe your pace rad is blocked. Fair play if airtec is working for you, and pace is working for rod, each to their own

 

Well said mate, a test needs to be done within controlled conditions in order to get a true outcome.

I had a pace on my cossie with no problems at all....although I now have a Pro alloy and am just as happy.

50mm is also better than 60mm imo, discuss

 

Thought it was the same guy... yep

https://passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/181980-whos-is-this-moonstone-3dr.html

 

There's some misconceptions on here, faster flow means less time to absorb heat well done, havbe a banana, quite correct.
It also means MORE COOLED water passes in the same given time.
Frankly why anyone thinks that no test is valid unless it is done in a laboratory is beyond me, a lab can't replicate the conditions that a rad would see on a car going along the road, so this is most likely as near as you can get.
Personally I don't think there is a lot in it at all, just don't like being ripped off by people trading on good names they had years ago, I don't give a toss what it looks like so long as it does the job.
Unless of course it is more important to LOOK good, even if sat at the side of the road with a blown head gasket as you got the BLING over performance one ?
tabetha

 

Can't comment on the rads but i just fitted the 70mm Airtec intercooler and it's more than good enough for my needs, heavy as fuck but who cares about the weight and if the corners are rounded, it's an engine part.

 

75C is too cold

 

It's hardly a proper comparison comparing a 50mm radiator with a 60mm one . Even the Pace 60mm one will perform better than their 50mm one - and probably even by the same degree (or even a bigger improvement) .

 

its down to 75 on cruise because of 3 tiny holes drilled in stat. a very good yb tuner i know done it on an old cos years ago and ive done them all ever since. id rather run cooler than hotter.

 

totally different rad aswell though the core is much larger instead of 3 little flutes for water to run through its got 1 massive one. the cooling has been improved by a big margin there a better rad imo.

 

Id rather run at the right temperature.

Rocket science this engine tuning mallarchy clearly