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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Default iphone payg is it worth the £350??

im looking for a new phone, i see there now sold on pay as you go for 350, chap also said including in that i get a full years free internet surfing????

sounds a good deal or is it?

only thing i forgot to ask is what tarrif will it be on? as i currently get loads of free texts with orange.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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its ok i think but not worth £350 of your money
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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a customer of mine has had 3, says they keep fuckingh up. the older one was better but still pish, get a tocco and stay clear of the omnia. 70% return rate
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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No, £99 and a £35 a month contract sounds like better value for money.
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Is the iPhone worth £350? Not to me (I have one) it isn't...

However, it does depend on how much you use your phone and for what. Two differenct CPW staff have told me that taking a PAYG iPhone deal will give you 12mths free wifi and 3G access (ie, ANY data used will be free for a whole year, and the wifi deal is 12ths free subscription to the Cloud network, which operate all over the place). After 12mths, to continue getting 3G data access and wifi subscriptions, you need to top up £10 a month (of which the whole £10 can be used with calls and texts, and it's purely the "top up" activation per month that carries your data and wifi subscriptions on every month)

So, if you don't make many calls and texts, but what to use as much data, either 3G cell net or wifi, then yes, you'd be better off with it....

First year is gonna cost you £350 + whatever you use in calls and texts. After that it's a tenner a month minimum, plus whatever else you use in calls and texts. So if you only use on average £15 a month in calls and texts, then you better off with the PAYG version as you pay your £15 a month for calls and texts, and get all your 3G data useage free.

You can break it down like this;

£99 + £35 per month for 18 mths is gonna cost £730 for the contract term - equivelent to £487 per year (12mths)

Go PAYG, working on a basis of £15 a month credit, for 12mths, will see you spend £350 (handset) + 12x £15 = £530 for the year : £43 more

But the next year only costs you 12x £15 credit, so £180, as opposed to the £420 contract cost

So round all that up to 18mths to compare directly with an 18mth contract and you get this;

CONTRACT : £100 (handset) + 18x £35 = £730 (18mths)
PAYG : £350 (handset) + 18x £15 = £620 (18mths) £110 CHEAPER

So you could be better off in the first year alone - not to mention another 18mths on contract will cost £630, or 18mths on PAYG @ £15 a month will cost £270, a huge £360 a year less
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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thanks for that mate


so basicly after 12v months its kinda like a contract i have to put a tenner a month on for them then maybe another tenner or so for calls/texts etc thats no good surely?

im currently on orange its great 10 a month top up gives me 300 free texts and i still have my tenner to spend on tools.


was my b day yesterday and i have some free cash so i really want i iphone, might aswell get 3g as the internet will be fast.


but i feel thats wrong to charge a tenner a month, basicly a tenner a month for the internet, cheeky fuckers

or did i missread your post and you still have your tenner to spend on calls?
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 01:47 PM
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i did not know the iphone was on payg i might look in to that

might be able to get some money off aswell
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350 quid? Are you mad?? Get on a contract mate, over the 12 months it works out much cheaper than PAYG if you anything more than an occasional user of your phone.
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best phone ever imo

Typed from an iPhone
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I'm getting one off a mate for £30, unlocked, comes with all the leads etc. Not really a great fan of them but for that price i'm gonna give it a go.
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so basicly after 12v months its kinda like a contract i have to put a tenner a month on for them then maybe another tenner or so for calls/texts etc thats no good surely?
If you only spend a tenner a month on calls and texts then it's FAR better than going on a contract! Did you not read the breakdowns I posted?

£10 (wifi+web) + £10 (calls+texts) = £20 a month. Contract = £35 a month. So it's £15 a month cheaper. Over a year thats £180 saved. Now I don't know about you, but I wouldn't class £180 in my pocket as "no good"

And don't call me shirley

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but i feel thats wrong to charge a tenner a month, basicly a tenner a month for the internet, cheeky fuckers
Using the web via the cell networks isn't cheap - I did £113 for 17MB of data a few months ago Couple to that you get a "The Cloud" subscription thats normally £6.99 a month on it's own meaning you get access to the largest mobile wifi network in the country, thats not a bad deal...


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350 quid? Are you mad?? Get on a contract mate, over the 12 months it works out much cheaper than PAYG if you anything more than an occasional user of your phone.
Re-read my post....
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimbo_ZS
I'm getting one off a mate for £30, unlocked, comes with all the leads etc. Not really a great fan of them but for that price i'm gonna give it a go.
Thats fucking STUPID CHEAP! It'll only be a 2G, like mine, so don't expect it to be fast for web over the cell nets, but at that price who gives a fuck Even if you don't like it you can sell it for a ton and make profit
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Thrush
Thats fucking STUPID CHEAP! It'll only be a 2G, like mine, so don't expect it to be fast for web over the cell nets, but at that price who gives a fuck Even if you don't like it you can sell it for a ton and make profit
Yeah exactly mate, its all legit aswell, he just gets bored of phones quickly and said i could have it for a small sum. I've had my current phone for over 2 years now and its great, but an Iphone for £30 i can't loose and if i don't get on with it, its going straight on ebay
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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So glad I was in the right place at the right time.
My old N95+£50 = iPhone 2G

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Mine cost me £165 from a forum I use, but when you see the 2G's selling on ebay for well over that (one sold there the day I bought mine for over £400!!! ) I don't mind!

Mine as it looks now

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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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Looks good mate, I need to experiment with winterboard/summerboard etc and get a backdrop.

Put up a screen grab of ur 2nd screen of apps

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my 3g 02 iphone cost £350 pay as you go UK model,i am on a contract with 02 and just switched it to iphone £30 a month tariff was £25 a month on sony(needed a new phone as i dropped and busted mine) got about 6months left on the contract.

Are 3g ones relatively new then?
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Nothing exciting on there;

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Originally Posted by Trotter
my 3g 02 iphone cost £350 pay as you go UK model,i am on a contract with 02 and just switched it to iphone £30 a month tariff was £25 a month on sony(needed a new phone as i dropped and busted mine) got about 6months left on the contract.

Are 3g ones relatively new then?
The iPhone 3G came out in July (or was it June?) this year, about a year/year and a half after the first iPhone (the 2G) and is basically exactly the same, bar three main things;

1) 3G network reception/access
2) GPS access (far more pinpoint than cellular triangulation)
3) All-plastic case (instead of the aluminium case on the first phone)
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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Get Big Boss prefs (for SSH), and ive also got the one touch enable/disable wifi which i find handy!
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so is 3g faster than say dial up 56k modem?
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i want an iphone
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Originally Posted by Thrush



Re-read my post....

Sorry bud, didn't read it the first time.
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How'd ya do an iPhone screen grab then? I did jailbreak my 3g but put it back after I found safari to be crashing and longing load up times for everything not to mention far reduced battery times! On the while though I love my iPhone, again types from an iPhone!
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im up for renewl next month and the way im heading is towards an iphone, and not a blackberry as i will use it for work too
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i want a iphone too.
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Originally Posted by Trotter
so is 3g faster than say dial up 56k modem?
Yes - but only just!

Originally Posted by maria
i want an iphone
I'll let you play with mine Friday

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How'd ya do an iPhone screen grab then? I did jailbreak my 3g but put it back after I found safari to be crashing and longing load up times for everything not to mention far reduced battery times! On the while though I love my iPhone, again types from an iPhone!
Hold the home button and press the sleep/wake button and the screen will flash and you'll hear the camera sound
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er.... about Friday


has been changed to Saturday!
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It has? Oh well, not to worry! How'd you manage to get tix for Saturday aswell as Friday, or was it Saturday all along but you thought it was Friday?
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I've never understood the whole iPhone thing. Me I'd rather have an iPod Touch and a good regular mobile. They just seem to me to be a silly size and shape for a phone.
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no, lee did have tickets for saturday, but moved them on and got ones for saturday so he could come!
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"I did jailbreak my 3g but put it back after I found safari to be crashing and longing load up times for everything not to mention far reduced battery times! On the while though I love my iPhone, again types from an iPhone!"

I jailbroke mine the other day and Safari keeps turning itself off (Not the sleep mode on the phone ) and my battery lasts 1 day atm. Might re-set it through IPhone.
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Funny, but my iphone does MMS and video recording, I don't need changeable memory cards (I never even used them in my Nokia's - and they came free with that ) and used video calling about 2 times before realising it was swag and you look like a prick shouting into a phone you're holding 2ft away from you

So whats your point
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to point out as above mine does mms and video recording i think (new to one) and doesnt need a memory card with 8gig installed internally,i never filled a 64mb card on my sony errisson

thrush when i connect via my home wifi what speed is the phone connection broadband or still no faster than 3g?
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Depends on your wireless router. iPhone is both 802.11b and 802.11g compatible, with .11b being 11Mbps, and 11g being 54Mbps.

Of course it will never reach those speeds as the internal processor is only 620mHz or something, and the cache is tiny, but then it's a handheld so thats unsurprising So even tho it can use that speed of wifi, it will always be held back by it's processing power - same as how old laptops etc aren't as quick to load and display web pages as new ones

But it's faster than 3G for sure... My server (which is also my router and wireless access point) is away for the moment, as it went fubar So I can't use mine on wifi at the mo, and installing apps and updates is painfully slow over the cell nets (specially since mine is the 2G model) but I discovered MacDonalds do free wifi, so I took a 3 min drive up there yesterday, did all my updates in a quarter of the time, and installed two new apps, and had the added a bonus of a cheeseburger while I waited
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Old Sep 30, 2008 | 07:51 AM
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reading the terms ont he o2 site you can opt out when your coming to the end of your 12 months of free internet etc, so how much it will cost there after i dont know?
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