just found this on youtube
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4zdyr9PyILk&NR=1

 

dont tell me that is the first time you have seen that Tony?

 

Surprised you havent seen it before, certainly been posted a lot, but yes, very lucky indeed, although porkie wasnt quite so lucky

 

not knocking you mate, but there must be hundreds of threads about this over the years on here.

and it is a few years out of date now!

but to add, yes Martin was extremely lucky, and even more so was Lee to still be here with us today

 

never seen it before came up when i was looking at the mad capri link
interesting the way the car just shot across the road did something brake causing the crash
rear diff rear suspension ?

 

I think it would have been quite hard to tell!!

 

Looks like driver error to me, he runs the car without the rear spoiler and has less downforce on the rear wheels and is properly going on the dirtiest part of the road and turns the car in way to quickly, the car looses traction at the rear wheels due to a combination of dirty road and to little downforce. If he had driven the car in a straighter line and slowly sliding the car right just by a few degrees he would probably not loose it as he did....IMHO..

 

looked to me like the 2 nearside wheels were on the less grippy part of the road with sand on...

either way martin and porkie lived to tell the tale and a better car evolved..
steve

 

Both bloody lucky. And it still sends shivers down my spine whenever i see this video!

Lee still suffers badly with his back, but after breaking it i guess that is to be expected!

At least they are both alive!

 

+ 1

 

I never knew porkie broke his back!

Both very lucky imo, there has never been a better argument for roll cages!!

 

Not saying mistake were not made but turning in too quickly was not the cause, I have better video than the stuff you can find on the net and have slowed it down several times.. Thanks for your help though!

The first picture is a nano second before the back end does the wild thing..

 

Whats the outcome then Mr hadland?

If turning in too quickly wasn't the cause?

How fast where you goin?

 

fcuking hell martoon.....

 

pmsl at the passionford crash investigators LOL

i wouldnt like to guess at what went wrong without seeing all the facts!

 

Just thing the mass(weight) going onto the grass/dirt made the car slide, while the slight turn-in made disaster

 

dont look like he turnd in
still lucky guys to still be with us well built car

 

Hate to see that vid..

 

The 2nd pic shows Martin on oppersit lock so would highly doubt he turned in !!

Possibility could be when he was driving on the dirt something he drove over went through the tyre & blew it out ??

As the 2nd pic does show the car leaning towards the passenger side

jb

 

Youve got it wrong Gareth, you will never be a proper investigator,
Take what you see on youpube as gospel, add that to your own personal experiance of never driving at such speeds, in such cars, on such roads etc and make up your own theory from that, I reckon it will be far far more exciting than the truth

 

Well spotted. As said I have looked at my video's frame by frame and I have more and more opposite lock applied in each shot, it didn't help one bit though

 

did any of your incar vids get saved in the end martin?

 

just goes to show it can happen to anyone!

 

IIRC Lee was reaching into the back to get a camera so really it happerned at a properly bad time.

You can cleary see Mart wound on more and more opposite lock.

Roll cages are a really really good idea.

 

You'll never know the cause.

"Driver error" of course is going to be a factor to most people, in that it was an error to put two wheels off the tarmac at that speed, but at the end of the day, thats what happens when the adrenalin is flowing, you make a quick decision, and sometimes they are good ones and sometimes they are bad ones.

Id personally class it as simply bad luck, its the sort of thing that happens to us all from time to time when we are driving on or near the limit.

 

I don't honestly think ANYONE could of saved that Mart !!

Jus be thankful you know EXCATELY what your doin when it comes to buildin a safe car !!

jb

 

First time I've ever seen a video of it too

 

Opposite lock can only do so much...and when you have lost all the traction as in this case the spin is inevitable. Well it´s history now.. and you guys live to tell the tale.. hehe..

 

Martin where you and porkie wearing skid lids? Cuz i know how dangerou scages can be in road cars in accidents. Obviously save you guys bacon though.

Phew.

 

No they werent carl

 

PMSL

 

Helmets?

I didn't even have a seatbelt on! I flew out on the car after a few rolls and the car went over the top and crushed me breaking my back... luckily it squashed me into some soft mud or I would have been dead.

I will NEVER know how we survived that... there were trees and buildings and rocks along that road! If we hit any of them at speed, it would have been all over! By CHANCE we managed to find a nice soft field to crash in.

MORE importantly we missed that dude on the quad bike. I would never have forgiven myself if an innocent local had got hurt.

My back still hurts alot and I lost ALOT of money but overall I am INCREDIBLY lucky!

and I don't blame Martin one bit. We were as responsible as each other for the crash!

 

Martin looked perfectly alright walking around he even gave an interview.I'm not much for his fashion sense in neck scarves

 

Lucky escape really, remember following the Gumball when it happened and hearing about it via m5board.

Either of you read The Driver by Alex Roy (Team Polizei) yet? Says Martoon is an idiot basically

 

What a cunt.

 

did any other vid's like onboard etc survive from the crash?

 

I think he was more than a little pissed that the Escort was faster than his car! We were not taking the worst risks in Morocco by a long shot.

 

thats because the previous night we had a 'run in' with him...

we were doing NOTHING wrong that night... he was driving like a CUNT. not using his mirrors and KEPT almost causing us to crash...

He seemed to think his M5 was the fastest thing EVER....

 

Seem to remember reading something about rear beam failure?

 

by the looks of it, it was somthing to do with half the car on the sandy shit, but I would assume the car would flick the other way ?