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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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the only o.e ecu u can only run lc and al on or can a p8 do it?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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P8 can, but it needs a baby board I think.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:56 PM
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cool can a p8 be live mapped as well?i presume a P8 is for small turbo escos?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:57 PM
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P8 is for big turbo, EECV was small turbo.

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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
cool can a p8 be live mapped as well?

No.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 02:59 PM
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No.
how come?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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Not again

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just seeing the options steve
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
how come?
You cannot emulate the chip apparently...
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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cool cheers fella L8 it is then
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 03:52 PM
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You can if the baby board isn't there!
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Originally Posted by DazC
You can if the baby board isn't there!
Surely then you would lose all the extra features that he`s after ?
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:22 PM
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P8 can do both and be live mapped
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Guys,are you sure that the iaw L8 ecu can't be live-mapped?,why?.
If that's the case i'm buggered...
how am i gonna change any settings on my car's L8 ecu?,how an earth did the original mappers change the chips settings on say,a saffire cossy with 400 ponies??.
Info pleeze.
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both can be live mapped, BUT only the L8 is live mappable by cossie specialists on here, the P8 although can be live mapped, i don't believe any of the tuners on here have the necessary emulator (as above) to do it.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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My P8 has been live mapped several times by people that use this board.
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Ignore all the replies on this topic except for TIBS
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 04:40 PM
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my P8's have also had many variant of live map over the years by a tuner on here. and i had anti lag.
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock TSM
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Originally Posted by markk
my P8's have also had many variant of live map over the years by a tuner on here. and i had anti lag.

Yours will probably also have had antilag WITHOUT using an antilag board that supposedly cant be done too ??
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Originally Posted by markk
my P8's have also had many variant of live map over the years by a tuner on here. and i had anti lag.
Originally Posted by TiB
Yours will probably also have had antilag WITHOUT using an antilag board that supposedly cant be done too ??

correct pal, in fact it was fitted and working when i competed in Grizedale forest rally in December 2004. so only a few years ago now mate
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock TSM
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Will`s been telling me Porkies then
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Will`s been telling me Porkies then
you can emulate all of the webber ecu's
what you cannot do is emulate a pectel p8 in real time directly using easy to use emulation software that shows you all the maps
If your clever enough and don't mind mapping in hex you can emulate any of them in real time I have such an emulator
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
the only o.e ecu u can only run lc and al on or can a p8 do it?
We can live map Weber L1, L6, & L8. We can also live map P8.

We dont offer any live mapping of P8's containing Pectel boards, but then we would never have to as all Pectel P8 features are available from us without having to use any additional boards. (Ie: closed loop / Air Injectors / ALS / Boost pot / Water Inj etc)

ALS is available for Both L8 and P8 ECU's and both can be live mapped with the ALS software present and active.

Launch Control is only available for L8 to my knowledge.
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Will`s been telling me Porkies then
More likely you missunderstood mate as he has mapped a few P8 live with me. he was probably talking about Pectel P8 boards such as pectel P8 Super 8.
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
We can live map Weber L1, L6, & L8. We can also live map P8.

We dont offer any live mapping of P8's containing Pectel boards, but then we would never have to as all Pectel P8 features are available from us without having to use any additional boards. (Ie: closed loop / Air Injectors / ALS / Boost pot / Water Inj etc)

ALS is available for Both L8 and P8 ECU's and both can be live mapped with the ALS software present and active.

Launch Control is only available for L8 to my knowledge.
it is available on pectel but is called start line strategy
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
More likely you missunderstood mate as he has mapped a few P8 live with me. he was probably talking about Pectel P8 boards such as pectel P8 Super 8.
That's the one

It was Super 8 i said we couldn't do live Rob
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just to clarify
they can all be live mapped
what is very difficult is to real time live map them
so live mapping them is more time consuming and therefore costly and people won't pay the price.
real time live mapping is far quicker and therefore cheaper
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 05:13 PM
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cheers for the info think L8 it will be!
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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I've got a kinda unique situation here,i've fitted a Pectal super 8 injection system onto my Vw corrado BUT i didn't use the sierra cosworth loom as it was in poor condition.
So i used another loom robbed off a Lancia delta evo-1,the car that has 2 MAP sensors already fitted.
Can my car be mapped??,i'm thinking that if i change the dianostic connectors over and copy the cosworths 3 wires the emulater should communicate.
Opinions welcome.
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Old Aug 25, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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i believe that the emulator plugs in the ecu instead of the chip mate, not using the diagnostic port
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