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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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what do u all think about ther rads and intercoolers just wanted some input thinking of buying them thanks in advance
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The radiators seem good for the money. Ive got one of their turbo rads, and its identical in every way ie welds, core design and even the font/type face used for the raised AIRTECH on the top as my XS power radiator. Ive come to the conclusion they are all made by the same people....and no one has yet to challenge my conclusion either. Got my XS radiator from the states for about £130 delivered with no shipping duty incured either. Both work very well, cant complain for the costs. Cant vouch for the intercoolers myself....personaly i'd go with a larger brand for that just in the hope that they would have done alot more R&D into the flows of an intercooler in its specific application.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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let me tell you haow poor the airtec kit is! the stuff is welded imo very badly i have seen some ones they have done shocking!!! there end tanks are basically machined billet blocks it seems! so basically the rad i saw weighs a ton, and also doens not do much better than std so why bother???

the intercoolers again not much better i could sit here and explain all day abou how bad they are butall i will say is that every week AH fabrication who i'm very close with either get a order to replace there airtec stuff OR they get sent the airtec stuff and say ''can you make us something the same size as this but better''

that should say it all IMO....

just remember sometimes you really do get what you pay for, buy cheap stuff get cheap results....
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Pro-Alloy everytime there stuff is awesome, bit expensive but you do get what you pay for
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Oddly enough AIRTEC came out THE best in terms of performance beating all the other makes on a recent VERY extensive rolling road test, the guy who owns the RR also now has changed from pace to airtec, says enough for me.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Oddly enough AIRTEC came out THE best in terms of performance beating all the other makes on a recent VERY extensive rolling road test, the guy who owns the RR also now has changed from pace to airtec, says enough for me.
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so you would say that their rads are ok ??
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:07 AM
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Their rads are brilliant and very reasonably priced too, I have one, the welds don't look quite as pretty as some other makes but I didn't buy it for looks, I bought it to keep my engine cool, and it does a champion job!!! You will need to buy an uprated fan switch from MSD though because of the extra heatsoak through the alloy.
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Oddly enough AIRTEC came out THE best in terms of performance beating all the other makes on a recent VERY extensive rolling road test, the guy who owns the RR also now has changed from pace to airtec, says enough for me.
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I'd honestly eat my own hat if that were true when compared to a radtec or AH item! As i know it wont beat either!

As we have tested them!
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Ive fitted a a couple of Airtec rads and intercoolers and I have to admit that I wasnt impressed with them tbh.

They are very heavy compared to other makes, the edges are sharp and they dont seem to fit well without a lot of buggering about.

A mate of mine also had one of their front mount intercoolers on his RST and found he couldnt get any more than 7-8 psi of boost. Fitted a standard cooler and the boost shot of the end of the gauge.

It certainly seems that you do get what you pay for.

Pro-alloy, radtec or pace would be my choices.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 08:58 AM
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I have a airtech rad turbo cooler and front mount and its all works very well forr me im runnin over 20psi off boost and it dosnt seam to struggle wiv that, cant say they are "better" than to other top brands as i havent used them but for the money i payed im very happy.
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My experience - Replaced my leaky standard radiator with an airtech, perfect! Running temps down a tad and looks sweet. Yes it is heavier than the standard one and yes the welds are slightly untidy at bits but for the price, you cant go wrong.
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A very good friend of mine has one of there Rads on there car, Like has been said it is heavy but he has no complaints about the way it performs.

Originally Posted by tabetha
Oddly enough AIRTEC came out THE best in terms of performance beating all the other makes on a recent VERY extensive rolling road test, the guy who owns the RR also now has changed from pace to airtec, says enough for me.
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These tests were done on a Focus ST IIRC. Also didnt it only come top when car was running standard boost etc? After the remap was carried out the Radtec etc then provided better results.

When PF did a test a while back on Intercoolers running on a cossie engine, Radtec and Pro alloy came out top my a large margin.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 01:40 PM
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If you want a price on a Radtec cooler and rad PM me.

Not going to get into arguments on what's better, who's bought what etc. It's all been said before.

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I'm just about to buy one of there new matt black 70mm intercoolers and there 60mm rad, they'll be more than enough for my spec.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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i ordered a matt black turbo cooler on friday.

£97 including P&P

should do a good enough job.

got to be better than having the water go straight back to the header tank un cooled .
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:08 PM
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way i see it if the rad does its job you dont need a pre rad!? i have never had heat issues on my car with my alloy rad alone no pre-rad! As 'dan' said people just wont listen let them learn the hard way... We keep trying tho hey dan!
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Radtec rads work relly well.
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:16 PM
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These tests were done on a Focus ST IIRC. Also didnt it only come top when car was running standard boost etc? After the remap was carried out the Radtec etc then provided better results.
I'm afraid the GRS intercooler came top on the tuned Focus ST!! Its in black and white in one of the Ford mags!!!
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by cozzieQ
what do u all think about ther rads and intercoolers just wanted some input thinking of buying them thanks in advance
there very good mate despite what many peopole who DONT OWN them are going to say they are top quality ive had one of each on the s2 coolers they they have made, changed my first twin pass for a prototype single pass and now im wainting on a new pro series singles pass.

there rads are much more heavy duty then others i seen from grs and rad tech much thicker alloy

i also have one of there turbo coolers too everything mounts so easily and i didn't have to cut anything about

for the price they are id def go for one, i'll def be changing for a pro series rad when they are avaliable
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie604
The radiators seem good for the money. Ive got one of their turbo rads, and its identical in every way ie welds, core design and even the font/type face used for the raised AIRTECH on the top as my XS power radiator. Ive come to the conclusion they are all made by the same people....and no one has yet to challenge my conclusion either. Got my XS radiator from the states for about £130 delivered with no shipping duty incured either. Both work very well, cant complain for the costs. Cant vouch for the intercoolers myself....personaly i'd go with a larger brand for that just in the hope that they would have done alot more R&D into the flows of an intercooler in its specific application.
air tec coolers are made in the uk mate, maybe just smae cores
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Originally Posted by adamski frst
I'd honestly eat my own hat if that were true when compared to a radtec or AH item! As i know it wont beat either!

As we have tested them!
not ever ones got pockets that deep mate, in value for money you aint gonna beat it sure if u got some fire breatheing 500bhp engine or u do every track day under the sun u'll need a proper huge custom jobby,

but for someone with lowish power and wants a bolt on applications (ther are direct fit) there stuff is grate, dont get me wrong if my Airtec cooler dose become limiting factor in my engine spec then i'll change it but its more than up to its job
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Grahamxx
I'm afraid the GRS intercooler came top on the tuned Focus ST!! Its in black and white in one of the Ford mags!!!
I couldnt recall which came out bang on top thats why i put Radtec etc. The point i was making was that the airtec didnt come out on top like had been posted above, it was one of the more well established companies that did.

I still havnt seen these RR figures proving the Airtec is better than everything else. If it has been proven to be the best why hasnt everyone else seen the figures?
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by marky_g
not ever ones got pockets that deep mate, in value for money you aint gonna beat it sure if u got some fire breatheing 500bhp engine or u do every track day under the sun u'll need a proper huge custom jobby,

but for someone with lowish power and wants a bolt on applications (ther are direct fit) there stuff is grate, dont get me wrong if my Airtec cooler dose become limiting factor in my engine spec then i'll change it but its more than up to its job
fully agree, but lets face facts here,, i std rad/cooler is good for 350hp.... So in essence why would people swap unless 1- they want to say they have a nice bling cooler 2- if they want over the 350mark in which case they should go for the better product!

now agreed there kit is ok BUT is not good when compared to radtec or AH as said prev there coolers ARE heavy and cores are not the best and welds are at times agrecultrual. The owner of AH even said to me last week he wonders why he bothers doing his coolers when people like airtec come along giving there coolers away that cheap fooling people into thinking they get the ''same product'' as they would get with them... which is totally wrong....

So yes to sum it up if you want something 'cheap' bit better than std but heavy and poor welds buy one, if you want a quality cooler spend extra on one that does what is says on the tin Ah or RADTEC all day long.... not gonna go into product wars just simple facts and imho pro alloy dont cut it either and i do know why but do not wish to post.

And as dan said and i will repeat people will not listen, they see a price and buy... but when they come to the crunch they always end up as said Ah getting calls to replace or make a product better than they have just bought....
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Old Aug 10, 2008 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Grahamxx
I'm afraid the GRS intercooler came top on the tuned Focus ST!! Its in black and white in one of the Ford mags!!!

didnt see your post graham, hope you ok i once bought some of your kit for my FRST yes your stuff is V good even alex @ah said how good it was but at the time he could tak me to the next cooling level so we did. In this testing was a AH one tested too?? i'd be curious too see as they are wanting big HP cars to step up atm to prove that there coolers are the best since changing there designs and cores there sure they offer the best on the market...

hope your well.
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just thought i would add that in one of the statements above it said that all the coolers above were tested on a focus st and that makes me wonder where pace comes in to question as they dont do a st intercooler so how can you compare and make statements about items that do exsist thats very good indeed, if i was going to buy a alloy product from any company it would have to be pace and pro alloy all day long as the people ther can fabricate and weld to a very high std and that why companys like these do parts for the air forces and production cars and they know they aint got people with as much skill at welding as steve wonder!! the best thing any one can do is by the right item the first time as a cheap item becomes pricey when you have to replace it ,but hay its your choice and your money and if your happy with your item then who cars ?????????
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all valid points but the air tec stuff gets a rely bad rap for a procuct that dose very well. the results should be on www.autospecialists.co.uk somewhere, the only cars that i no have def been tested are a standard FRST and standard ERST and my RST (190bhp)

dropped temsp massively on my car even on a massively heat soaked engine ( done lik 7 runs on the day lol)
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