Ive just found an american company selling eagle h section conrods for £215 delivered to your doorstep.

http://www.racingworks.com/eagle-bil...cting-rods.htm

just in case anyone is after some, if anybody is let me know and it will be even cheaper because about £50 of this is postage so we could have them shipped together

woo hoo, im gonna be skint this winter lol

 

And what pistons do you intend to run with these rods? The American rods are a bit of a weird size, but of course getting custom pistons will resolve that issue.

 

bloody hell you like throwing the spanner in the works!!lol

Im going with wossner pistons as they are in the process of designing piston especially for the zvh conversion. I really dont know about the small end size, I have sent that comapny an email though so will look into it more, as soon as I get a responce will put a post up. You gotta admit though it bloody cheap!! it costs 175 for one fardon rod from burton

 

I suggested to the main UK distributor for Wossner stuff to produce a piston to suit those cheap American rods, but they said they were going to be doing their own rod+piston package, albeit it with a silly compression ratio.

The Eagle rods have a 19.98mm small end and are designed for pistons with approx. 29mm compression height. The current Wossner zetec pistons are all for the silver-top engine which runs a 33.05mm compression height piston. The problem with running the long blacktop/american rod (and thus a shorter compression height piston) is you instantly lose a huge amount of material of which to machine out to make them low compression.. I think you'd struggle to say run 7:1 with a blacktop piston package, i'm not sure if 7.5:1 is possible, maybe just! Of course butchering the combustion chamber may drop the compression, but perhaps at the cost of det!! Badly reworked combustion chambers (even if done on CNC machines) can result in making det worse (like removing the squish band on some engines), so you would have potentially been better off running the slightly higher CR and no det!

All of this stuff has been tested, pretty much every combination does, none of this stuff is pioneering. You're best to speak to those who have tried and tested this stuff, like Ian Howell, and either buy an engine or the parts to build an engine from them. An 'internet spec' is likely to end in tears

 

spoke to ian, wanted 2500 for a bottom end, just a tad out of my budget.lol but that was for a proper bottom end. i think im going to end up using jec steel rods with qossner zvh rods, these should give a 8:0 c/ratio and fit nicely (i hope)

God loves tryer.lol

at least people can see what sort of results i get in the end, be it good or bad but fingers crossed

 

Will they refund you in full when you dummy build the engine and it's nowhere near what they claim? I think it's HIGHLY unlikely they (a reseller, I predict) will be building any engines to test the theory.

 

Dont know about the full refund, but I can't see how out it can be, the pec rods are designed for silver top pistons, and the wossner zvh pistons will be designed to replicate the silver top fitment but with a different c/ration and crown design i.e. i presume there will only be 2 valve cut outs if any. It will be exciting to see what I end up with though