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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:45 AM
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A standard beam that's adjustable? In what way?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:47 AM
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Ahmed or Danny B is your best bet Kev.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:51 AM
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If you go Adrenaline, do NOT go for the tubular one, as the arms have clearance issues and foul the bodywork necessitating severe chassis mods .

The Ahmed one is Ł1k (exchange) and is adjustable for both toe and camber.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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fed up waiting on bushes? so am i but not ready to pay Ł1k for a beam
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
If you go Adrenaline, do NOT go for the tubular one, as the arms have clearance issues and foul the bodywork necessitating severe chassis mods .

The Ahmed one is Ł1k (exchange) and is adjustable for both toe and camber.

Design flaw ? or just something that came about after they were produced ?

how much moddification is needed to make sure the arms dont foul
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
If you go Adrenaline, do NOT go for the tubular one, as the arms have clearance issues and foul the bodywork necessitating severe chassis mods .

The Ahmed one is Ł1k (exchange) and is adjustable for both toe and camber.
I havent observed the clearance issues on the adrenaline one that Mike mentions (simply as i wasnt looking for them) but my take on the beam is that its fantastically well made, great quality adjusters and nice finnish to it etc
On the one I adjusted though it did NOT have actually enough adjustment available IMHO, I wasnt actually able to quite get the toe to where I wanted without having to dial in slightly more camber than I wanted, not sure if thats specific to how its fitted on that car in question, or if thats always the case.

But as a result I would have reservations about buying one personally based on what I saw, especially when coupled with the required chassis mods that Mike mentions, where as the ahmed one has been proven time and time again and I believe is a straight fit.

Im sure that there was nothing up with the Adrenalin one that couldnt be fixed though, so dont think im slagging it off as useless as im not, but essentially it still requires a small amount of development work IMHO (especially regards to fitting ease from what Mike said)
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:08 AM
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what geaometry were you trying to get chippie
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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Design flaw ? or just something that came about after they were produced ?

how much moddification is needed to make sure the arms dont foul
Definite design flaw and needs huge chunks cutting out of the rear chassis and even then the ride height has to be set excessively high to prevent the arm / chassis interface acting as a rather solid bump stop .

I'm sure Danny can rectify it, but it needs the rear arms redesigning IMO, along with taking into account Chip's comments regarding adjustment range. However, this may have partly been due to the excessive ride height required, I'm not sure until the car is properly lazer aligned.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:20 AM
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Sounds like the AHMED one is the better item to go for as its been proven. Ł1k well spent if thats what your looking for imo. Any pics of the AHMED beem.
Danny's beem looks smart though and im sure he can sort any issue's.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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apart from the clearnace problems, would the tubular beam and arms provide any benifit over modded original ones ?

apart from weight saving
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Mitsy FQ
what geaometry were you trying to get chippie
Slight toe in but without much very much camber.

It was only by putting in more camber I was able to bring it to towing in, without camber its out of adjustment (ie adjuster would fully to toe in) while its still towed out.

I realise the shell's arent EVER straight and this could be specific to this car and others might be ok, so like I said im not having a go, but a bit more adjustment would be a nice to have, especially if you were about to raise and lower it on a rally car for different terrains or similar.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Who sells ahmed's ones ?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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Chip can you pm me the settings you were trying to achieve please,
This issue is going to be taken care of for said car and will be discussed in detail with Harvey when he comes here.
Currently this has only been a problem on this car but I want it solved to make sure there are not continual problems, Also the clearancing require Mike mentions has been improved but its is something that has to be done on Tubular arm set ups Adrenaline or not which is why they are specified as a race only beam,The last beam fitted here had no issues acting as a bump stop as without the shock the driveshaft was the limiting factor on ride height.
Our stg 1 (Ł750)and 2(Ł998) is the bolt on and go which with over 35 sold there has been no problems with fit or adjustment only good comments.

Anyway look forward to your PM and getting this sorted.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
If you go Adrenaline, do NOT go for the tubular one, as the arms have clearance issues and foul the bodywork necessitating severe chassis mods .

The Ahmed one is Ł1k (exchange) and is adjustable for both toe and camber.
X2...........

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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:01 PM
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my stage 3 one danny, catches on bo the my escos and the mk3 on the chassis rails, i solved this with a big hammer, not something i wanted to do but needs must
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mk3cosworth
my stage 3 one danny, catches on bo the my escos and the mk3 on the chassis rails, i solved this with a big hammer, not something i wanted to do but needs must

erm... why didnt you just go back to Danny and ask him to supply you with something that fits properly?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:07 PM
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i wasnt that bothered as ther both track cars not concours or road cars, it would of been nice to have been told about it at the price of them
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Danny B
Chip can you pm me the settings you were trying to achieve please,
This issue is going to be taken care of for said car and will be discussed in detail with Harvey when he comes here.
Currently this has only been a problem on this car but I want it solved to make sure there are not continual problems, Also the clearancing require Mike mentions has been improved but its is something that has to be done on Tubular arm set ups Adrenaline or not which is why they are specified as a race only beam,The last beam fitted here had no issues acting as a bump stop as without the shock the driveshaft was the limiting factor on ride height.
Our stg 1 (Ł750)and 2(Ł998) is the bolt on and go which with over 35 sold there has been no problems with fit or adjustment only good comments.

Anyway look forward to your PM and getting this sorted.
I have an Adrenaline stage 2 beam, fantastic bit of kit IMHO, as Danny says easy fit, no problems and there looks to be plenty of adjustment and very well made. As soon as the car decides to move I will get it all tracked up and stick some pics up of the beam adjusted etc.

heres what they look like before fitting





Once that lot is sorted then it's having the frame connectors and the triagular rear strut brace as well
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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this is my stage 3 tubular one




and for the keen eyed ones i know the arms are upside down and wrong sides, lol that was just for the pic after a good night out
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by mk3cosworth
i wasnt that bothered as ther both track cars not concours or road cars, it would of been nice to have been told about it at the price of them
Yeah me too about price, but mine is a road car, its pissed me off that much i dont drive it now.. no ABS aswell..

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Originally Posted by macca33
Yeah me too about price, but mine is a road car, its pissed me off that much i dont drive it now.. no ABS aswell..
Silly question, but why did you go for the race beam for a road car?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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why are you moaning about the price as well? Ahmed's beam is Ł1k and fully adjustable. You then have to take a big hammer to your car in order to get the Adrenaline one to fit
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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price didnt bother me, just would of been better if i was told about the mods, i looked into a few different types of axles and decided on dannys, i like it, its a nice piece of kit and lighter
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Silly question, but why did you go for the race beam for a road car?
Wasnt aware of the probs with it, it did look good aswell..

But looks arent everything i know now...
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 02:53 PM
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Danny, PM Sent

I hope you can get it sorted, as to me the beam was a fantastically made bit of kit, and the adjusters were great quality etc, both me and Dough Stirling (who was giving me a hand adjusting it) commented on how nice it was compared to a zoo beam etc

Just a shame that the current layout of it prevents the adjustment we were trying to do, but as I said to Micheal at the time, that would be easily fixed.

And to be fair even where we did get it too, it then handled pretty well from the feedback he gave, so where I was attempting to dial it might not even be anywhere it *really* needs to go.

I disagree with Mike on the height needing to come down a lot by the way, as the driveshaft angles (slightly in droop) looked ideal to me.

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Originally Posted by CossieRich
why are you moaning about the price as well? Ahmed's beam is Ł1k and fully adjustable. You then have to take a big hammer to your car in order to get the Adrenaline one to fit
NOT the stage 1 and stage 2 beams though Rich, only the full race one that Micheal has, which as far as im aware Ahmed doesnt do an equivalent of.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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Please be aware that I am not criticising the normal beams Danny does, just the tubular ones.
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Please be aware that I am not criticising the normal beams Danny does, just the tubular ones.
So how do you feel his 750 pound beam compares to harveys 1000 pound one out of interest then Mike?
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Old Jul 9, 2008 | 03:28 PM
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So how do you feel his 750 pound beam compares to harveys 1000 pound one out of interest then Mike?
Not very well, as it is only adjustable for camber .

You have to go to Danny's stage 2 beam for both adjustment ranges, which is basically the same price as Ahmed's, so then it is just a choice of who you want to buy off, as both are identically priced .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Not very well, as it is only adjustable for camber .

You have to go to Danny's stage 2 beam for both adjustment ranges, which is basically the same price as Ahmed's, so then it is just a choice of who you want to buy off, as both are identically priced .
Out of interest how do you adjust the tow on the ahmed beam?
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i think its slotted so you can move it back and forward to adjust toe in and out

KSA-Cossie harvey will supply and fit one of the beams
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i think its slotted so you can move it back and forward to adjust toe in and out

KSA-Cossie harvey will supply and fit one of the beams
I thought it was was but I saw a friend who has bought one that wasn't and thought it should be.

So you could slot the Stg1 beam and it could be the same as the Ahmed one then?
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Kev, get a stg2 Danny one
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What beam does charlie have ?
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Old Jul 10, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Stage 1 Adrenaline .
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