Audi S3 vs Mondeo ST220

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Jun 12, 2008 | 10:01 PM

Gary_ST

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Audi S3 vs Mondeo ST220

Could be clutching at straws here, but would I be mad to go up against a new Audi S3 with 265PS in my ST220 which has 248BHP?

The S3 is 30kg lighter, and about 15BHP up yet does 0-60 1.1 seconds quicker than my ST.

Curious to know what the real life difference would be, making full use of the revs; how far behind would it leave me?

Jun 12, 2008 | 10:19 PM

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Your a cunt, i am not replying.

Dont think the S3 would leave you too far behind mate, they are quick though.

Jun 12, 2008 | 10:21 PM

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Just looked at the stats:

ST220 0-100: 16 seconds

Audi S3 0-100: 13.6

I'm fucked

Jun 12, 2008 | 10:22 PM

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Your a cunt, i am not replying.

Backups Arrived - Back down lad, or else.

In all seriousness, after going in the Van there both shit.

Jun 12, 2008 | 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary_ST

Just looked at the stats:

ST220 0-100: 16 seconds

Audi S3 0-100: 13.6

I'm fucked

The van it is.

On a real serious note, how about a rolling start from around 70mph?

Jun 12, 2008 | 10:25 PM

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The van it is.

On a real serious note, how about a rolling start from around 70mph?

They have 265ft/lb, I have 210ft/lb.

I'd need to be in 3rd to even stand a chance

So wondering if anyones driven one really, as figures on paper don't necessarily translate to being all that on the road.

Jun 13, 2008 | 12:09 AM

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You reckon the quickest way around a track is with 100% grip, no tyre squeal and the traction control turned on..... you have no chance!!!!

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Jun 13, 2008 | 12:14 AM

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st220 police is here. you will hammer not problem,,, u will even take off , u will be going that fast.

lol

depends on drivers mate, there wont be a car lenght in it? is the audi rear wheeler or front????

want to borrow my Nos?? lol

Jun 13, 2008 | 12:33 AM

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You reckon the quickest way around a track is with 100% grip, no tyre squeal and the traction control turned on..... you have no chance!!!!

Please show me where he said such a thing? Because I'm pretty sure he never, and if you prove otherwise I will eat my hat.

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Jun 13, 2008 | 12:35 AM

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It's a Quattro so 4!

Jun 13, 2008 | 12:45 AM

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Please show me where he said such a thing? Because I'm pretty sure he never, and if you prove otherwise I will eat my hat.

Benni.

Post #51... get eating Benni!!!!

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...45#post3347645

Jun 13, 2008 | 12:59 AM

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Post #51... get eating Benni!!!!

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...45#post3347645

I fail to see where where he has said and I shall quote you, The Quickest way around a track is with 100% grip, no tyre squeal and the traction control turned on.....

Where does he say that, or anything close to that?

Benni.

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Jun 13, 2008 | 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary_ST

Just looked at the stats:

ST220 0-100: 16 seconds

Audi S3 0-100: 13.6

I'm fucked

This post alone shows you are fucked!!

didn't realise ST's were that slow

Jun 13, 2008 | 01:39 AM

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This post alone shows you are fucked!!

didn't realise ST's were that slow

That's about the same for all the latest Perfomance Fords. I think it's slightly quicker than the focus ST too.

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Jun 13, 2008 | 05:56 AM

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yes, very slightly quicker than the standard focus st.

Jun 13, 2008 | 06:09 AM

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ST will win easy 2wd against 4wd, my moneys on the ST.
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Jun 13, 2008 | 06:41 AM

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in the real world 1 second isn't a lot

it all depends on what sort of "race" you were thinking of entering

Jun 13, 2008 | 06:42 AM

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The new S3 is fairly nippy! Each one I've come against doesn't seem to pull away much, and those poxy Corsa VXRs? Pah!

Jun 13, 2008 | 06:43 AM

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ST will win easy 2wd against 4wd, my moneys on the ST.
tabetha

FWD Vs 4WD.... From a standing start... no chance mate

Jun 13, 2008 | 08:31 AM

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Post #51... get eating Benni!!!!

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...45#post3347645

I said no such thing you big gay clown. Just because I like it on in the background doesn't mean it'll make me quicker. I appreciate that with heavy track driving it will cut in a lot, but in my car, with my driving style (i.e. no sideways malarkey & some mechnical sympathy), it will do me no harm by staying on.

Back on topic, I can only hope they are permanent 4 wheel drive so have a great big dirty transmission loss

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Jun 13, 2008 | 08:34 AM

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what does ST stand for isn't it Slow Touring

Jun 13, 2008 | 08:37 AM

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Says the bloke who drives a Prius - if you can't afford to drive something nice, don't drive at all

Jun 13, 2008 | 10:12 AM

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Ridiculous to even ask

The new s3 is a serious peice of kit

Jun 13, 2008 | 10:42 AM

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ST will win easy 2wd against 4wd, my moneys on the ST.
tabetha

2.5 secs slower to a ton say you're wrong!!

Jun 13, 2008 | 10:52 AM

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S3 will kill you!

Jun 14, 2008 | 03:42 PM

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The st will win. wanna no why cos i raced 1 looool. audi needs more power 4 the 4wd, The audi Losses to mutct through the running gear. I like the clowns who just look at the figures pmsl.

Like i said though there will be hardly anything in it.

Jun 14, 2008 | 04:36 PM

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Interesting...

Those S3's aren't permanent four wheel drive are they? So the transmission loss won't be too bad. What happened when you raced one?

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Jun 14, 2008 | 05:05 PM

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Quote:

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Interesting...

Those S3's aren't permanent four wheel drive are they? So the transmission loss won't be too bad. What happened when you raced on?

Not strictly true... They run a haldex torque biasing set up IIRC?

Jun 14, 2008 | 05:08 PM

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Not strictly true... They run a haldex torque biasing set up IIRC?

I don't know :$

Please educate me.

Jun 14, 2008 | 05:10 PM

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I don't know :$

Please educate me.

It's all to do with the torque manifold outlet on the cam shaft intake. You would never understand.

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Jun 14, 2008 | 05:10 PM

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And i like the clowns who defend the car they own far too much!!

Jun 14, 2008 | 05:52 PM

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at a guess the s3 should mince meat u

Jun 14, 2008 | 06:02 PM

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my missus has a superchip and de cat and panel filter + remap and that has smoked a few scoobies and thats an 1.8t just half the money!

Jun 14, 2008 | 06:02 PM

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sod the a3

Jun 14, 2008 | 06:31 PM

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my transit will be much quicker

Jun 14, 2008 | 07:36 PM

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biased hhmmm, nahh just going on wat haapened on the road. you needs loads more power on the road 4 it to show anyway, it will just be very close.

I will educate u gary.

The engine is connected to the gearbox
The gearbox is connected to the ermmmmm im stuck loooooooool

Jun 14, 2008 | 08:22 PM

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S3 specs

Configuration - Straight 4
Location - Front, transversely mounted
Construction - aluminum alloy block, aluminum head
Displacement - 1.984 liter / 121.1 cu in
Bore / Stroke - 82.5 mm (3.2 in) / 92.8 mm (3.7 in)
Compression - 10.5:1
Valvetrain - 4 valves / cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed - Direct Fuel injection
Aspiration - Turbo

Power - 265 bhp / 198 KW @ 6000 rpm
Torque - 350 Nm / 258 ft lbs @ 2500 rpm
BHP/Liter - 134 bhp / liter
Top Speed - 250 km/h / 155 mph
0-60 mph - 5.5 s

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