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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:50 PM
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proper weird problem at the moment . heres a pic of my golf when i bought it . it had 205/50/15's on it



2 weeks ago i bought a set of wheels off ebay and put them on . the tyres are 205/40/17 . car now looks like this and i love it



now the car steering is lighter . went to the local tyre place and he said thats normal on a lot of cars ??

the car now slides in corners as if your going to fast into the corner and even though your turning the wheel it still goes straight and then turns if you know what i mean ? its like when its wet and you go round a roundabout and if you give it well a car will pull out further even when steering in course the weight of the car is pushing it out and the tyres aint gripping enough till you let the power off ?? if you know what i mean . its a strange one to discribe . it aint that bad in the dry but still handles like its on thin 14 inchs steels ?? im trying as best as i can to decribe what it does ???

it drove fine when i had the standards on it now its poo. i was thinking of selling it anyway when i got new wheels for it cos another car has come up ive wanted for a while but i want to sort this out first really .

the tracking is fine . the lower arms are fine . the steering rack is perfect . so now im thinking is it the tyres ??

3 tyres are cheap make and one is a Avon .

now the avon is a square edge tyre if you know what i mean . the wall is straight to the edge and and the other 3 are round edge , the dip in from the wall to the tread ?

now my question is has anyone else had this problem

are the tyres reall that shite that they would cause this sliding ?? ive always had cheap tyres but never had this problem

some on said get the camber checked but the local place says if it does a 4 wheel alignment and does the camber that it will only be able to put it to the factory settings . and cos the car has bigger wheels and lowering springs it would be wrong anyway ?

ive been told to lower it more and it will help ??

im going outside in a min and will take a pic of the tyre make and shapes .

what do you lot think ??
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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is the offset right, if thats somewhere near i would put it down to the crap tyres, what are they?
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:02 PM
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super shite tyres i would say
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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I would say the tyres aint helping, make sure the tyres on the front are the same this may help.

have you checked the tyre pressures?
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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if they are directional...make sure they are going the right way..
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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heres a couple of pics of the tyres to show what i mean about the wall of the tyre ?

they are "Tornado Alpha " GREAT !!



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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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if they are directional...make sure they are going the right way..
thats the first thing i checked cos that what it feels like when driving it a bit hard . as if they are on backwards . tyre pressures are 30psi .

they are a matching set . and they offset is 35 which shoud be about right for a VR6
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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I prefer the 15s tbh
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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are they going the right way ?? the emblem on the side of the tyre is a bit weird but in sure the grip pattern is facing forwards ??

ive got no probs getting some bette tyres if i know that it will cure the prob.

what tyres should i be after ??
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Look similar to my mates VR6 with them type of wheels on.....

Here is a few pics i did of it







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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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any joy with the ideas....
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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mk3's just dont handle, i had a golf VR6 highline total minter with 16'' azev A rims on and eagle f1's on them coilovers and uprated anti roll bars and it still as mentioned wanted to go straight round a bend ......


basically the reason i sold it that was but it was one of the best cars i ever owned.... just didnt handle my vts would out handle it anyday just not as quick
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TIFF
any joy with the ideas....
yeah Tiff , think i will stop in the tyre whop on the way home and see what they have got . what would you recommend mate ??
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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i had this on my evo 2 handles like shit just aint got money to fork out on 4 new tyres
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:18 PM
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Totally different car, but my sister had some 17s with budget tyres and the car drop shite - also had the light steering.

Dropped it back on the orginal wheels and it felt loads better. The 17s with low profile and shat rock hard tryes just seemed to ruin the handling
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 10:30 PM
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I thought this whole "cheap tyres ruin your handling" thing was a load of old bollocks until i replaced the arrowspeed ditchfinders on my wife's Puma (they came with the car) - Replaced them with some Yokohamas

The car is completely transformed. The handling was light and it used to handle like a moon buggy at 70+ and bounce all over the place, but it is smooth as anything now. Same with pot holes and general bumps, they used to rattle the bones out of the car but not any more


I'd bin those shitter tyres
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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Defo tyres had this problem with my everyday shitter put some 17's on with shit tyres and it was like driving on ice got tem off asap went back to my 16's goes round corners now lol
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:11 AM
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Get yourself some goodyear eagle F1s
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