Saph Cossie vs 3dr,

both RWD of course.

also whats more preferable for you track peeps

2wd vs 4wd

 

saph...

Cheaper to buy


Cheaper to trash!


alex

 

Alex,
And more rigid shell on the Sapphire.

4x4 for going REALLY quick (above 300bhp) and 2wd for fun (see CWs video following the 2wd Sapph around Coombe).

 

havent been out on track in a saph but it were proper fun in a 3dr!

handled a lot better than i expected too!

 

I would say 3dr but saffs are cheaper to buy and cheaper to fix if you crash it on track - also more aerodynamic, but saying that it dont have the presence of a 3dr

 

Ran,
He's asking about which makes a better track car, not how good you look going down the shops .

 

yes and and as Mike said more rigid and have slightly better suspension geometry than a 3door which improves the handling as well I believe.

but they look poooooooooony

 

lol at road presence on track!!

 

Lee,
Actually it is the other way round . The 3-door has MUCH better geometry on the front (for track use) than a Sapphire, hence why on mine I fitted 3-door TCAs and hubs... . It's just that the 3-door being a hatch is about as rigid as Phil's cock at the thought of a naked woman .

 

are you sure? I thought I read that the saff was better and that marcos has saff stuff on it

 

Absolutely 100% sure . The Sapphire front end was changed back to a more "road friendly" set-up due to it being aimed at "suits", whereas the 3-dr was track optimised for homologation purposes.

This is why everyone wants 3-dr TCAs and hubs and why Sean developed the TCA "knuckles" to try and replicate the 3-dr set up .

 

anyone read whay Yvan Muller said in Evo magazine about the RS500 he drove around brands hatch............

BUT 2wd cheaper

 

Thanks Mike, wasn't aware of that

 

So mike what are you saying?

So its rock hard?Your contradicting yourself again

Porkie for you to say a Sapphire looks pony when you yourself drive about in a car with about as much colour coordination as Jasons Donovans multi coloured coat,is quite staggering!

 

Interesting...thanks guys

Does the shorter wheelbase on the escort make it a better track car? Can you feel the difference?

 

Lee,
That's okay - is that all you want to know, as Harvey needs to get back to the dyno..... .

The Escort is very good on track due to it's positive down force, traction and steering feel.

 

You know mike,that wouldnt be as funny if it wasnt true!

 

 

No, Longer wheelbase is better as it adds stability.

 

Phil, its a TRACK car... its meant to look mad. I like subtle road cars

3 doors look better than saffs and are much more motorsport looking in my eyes...

Actually you are right... god my car looks poo

 

that looks the tits! would love to have something like that 1 day!

 

absoulutely fooking awesome porkie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Which is GOOD on the road, but BAD on the track where you want the car to be quick to turn in, so YES the short wheel base IS good for TRACK .

 

3drs might be a little less stiff in design as there is a good few years and a small invention called CAD being introduced to Ford

 

Porkie the car looks nice..the paint job sucks IMO,a colour blind chimp could have done better

 

Say he with nice roll cage padding and mis matched boost pipes

 

and it just so happens i have a set for sale too

 

Oi!

2wd saff all day for me.

Cheap - soooooo much cheaper to repair than either a 3door or Esc Cos if you prang it.

Cheap - in 2wd format, you don't have the gearbox reliability nonsense to contend with.

More fun - if you're at Bedford in February, I'll show ya

That's all I got.............