Restorations, Rebuilds & Projects. Restoring her to Concourse? Just getting her running again? Or got a mad project? This is your room.

Cosworth KA - 2015.......what to do??

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 9, 2007 | 11:33 PM
  #1  
Richie.'s Avatar
Richie.
Thread Starter
aka Turbosailorboy
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 21
From: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine
Default Cosworth KA - 2018.......remembered my log in !

Time for a new project folks.

After having to do a lot of welding when we built B9KOS back up i decided i wanted to build something a bit newer.
First choice was obviously a Focus but with so many conversions already complete and a fair few on the go
i decided it would be good to do something different. Mk6 Fiesta, Focus estate and even a Cougar were
considered before i decided on a Ka




The project has three main components:

1. One Ford Ka shell

Name:  ZZF003.jpg
Views: 3319
Size:  92.3 KB

2. One Cosworth YB

Name:  Dummyengine.jpg
Views: 2544
Size:  66.4 KB

3. Someone to do the fabrication work

Name:  invoicelogosmall.jpg
Views: 2353
Size:  7.6 KB


The problem off getting a suitable base vehicle was solved when i contacted MAD-EVO4 about his ex-track Ka that
he had started to break for spares to start a new project himself.

http://www.adrenaline-race.com/forum...asc&highlight=



The plan is based on a completion date of July 2008 hopefully to allow it to 'debut' at either Ford Fair or National Day.


To start with we need to strip all the present running gear and remaining interior out and then transport the bare shell
to Adrenaline Race and Performance to let Danny do the required fab work to enable it to be rwd and YB powered.

Spec

Engine: Standard YB with T34 0.63, L8 with coilpacks, Swedish style plenum and a set of 55lb Siemens injectors.

Gearbox: T5 then hopefully a sequential Mullet rwd

Front Suspension: Adjustable TCAs, Compression struts etc

Rear Suspension: WRC cradle/lateral links set up to enable the rear track to be made to fit the 'Ford Racing' arches.

Brakes: Floor mounted pedal box, APs and vertical hydraulic handbrake.

Last edited by Richie.; Dec 2, 2018 at 11:58 PM. Reason: Project Update.
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:14 AM
  #2  
Bungle's Avatar
Bungle
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,062
Likes: 0
From: SUTTON IN ASHFIELD
Default

Fuckin awesome project matey, Btw ya still got the imola's off the saff?
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:29 AM
  #3  
wide ka's Avatar
wide ka
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 1,007
Likes: 0
From: wakefield
Default

looking forward to this, i think you fit some 16" monte wheels to it when done will look awsome
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:53 AM
  #4  
dave green's Avatar
dave green
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 4,073
Likes: 0
From: bedfordshire
Default

Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:55 AM
  #5  
the saint's Avatar
the saint
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 2,121
Likes: 0
From: new milton, hampshire
Default

cool project mate

what ever happened to that yellow cossie ka severn valley motorsport built??????? i always wanted that car
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:26 AM
  #6  
Sticky.'s Avatar
Sticky.
20K+ Super Poster.
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 23,349
Likes: 0
From: Liverpool
Default

Good luck with it all mate

Cool project
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:43 AM
  #7  
Twellsie's Avatar
Twellsie
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 7,271
Likes: 9
From: Nuneaton
Default

looking forward to seeing this one
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:21 AM
  #8  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default



Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:24 AM
  #9  
TimC's Avatar
TimC
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,367
Likes: 3
From: Skelmersdale, Lancashire
Default

Sweet. This should be a good project to keep an eye on
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:27 AM
  #10  
maxest's Avatar
maxest
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 6,408
Likes: 18
From: Blackpool
Default

Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:28 AM
  #11  
RichardPON's Avatar
RichardPON
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,377
Likes: 0
Default

Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:33 AM
  #12  
Luca's Avatar
Luca
Lukesville
15 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,676
Likes: 5
From: Portsmouth
Default

good project mate, looking forward to seeing the progression
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:34 AM
  #13  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

Originally Posted by RichardPON
Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!
I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:54 AM
  #14  
Gatecrasher's Avatar
Gatecrasher
Not welcome...
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 3,031
Likes: 0
From: South east...
Default

Mental
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 09:59 AM
  #15  
Nash's Avatar
Nash
Cake lover!
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 4,234
Likes: 11
From: Crewe
Default

Nice one mate
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 10:34 AM
  #16  
Rossco's Avatar
Rossco
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 4,976
Likes: 0
From: Near Ipswich.
Default

This is going to be mad, good luck fella
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 11:45 AM
  #17  
Munch's Avatar
Munch
Mr. Sparkle!
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 12,775
Likes: 0
From: Wiltshire - swindon
Default

Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol


there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:05 PM
  #18  
JonnyBravo's Avatar
JonnyBravo
10K+ Poster!!
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 11,058
Likes: 7
From: Huntingdon
Default

Originally Posted by Sidewayz
Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol


there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting
I know DJM have built a few now using Evo running gear.

Proper cars but I bet the build costs are MASSIVE.

Awesome project though
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:11 PM
  #19  
Shorty's Avatar
Shorty
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 5,016
Likes: 0
From: Liverpool
Default

Forgot about this, i remember Diva telling me about it aaaages ago!!

Gonna be mega!
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:14 PM
  #20  
Sticky.'s Avatar
Sticky.
20K+ Super Poster.
20 Year Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 23,349
Likes: 0
From: Liverpool
Default

Please dont tiger stripe this one or put silly spoilers on
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:22 PM
  #21  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

Tiger stripes are 'OK'.... Rear spoiler aint - FACT


Please dont do it Rich
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:30 PM
  #22  
Shonky's Avatar
Shonky
V6 Ka of Love
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 460
Likes: 0
From: South Wales
Default

Nice!!
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:44 PM
  #23  
RichardPON's Avatar
RichardPON
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 23,377
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!
I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is
That wasn't really what I meant.

I was referring more to the fact that it would be RWD with a short wheelbase, and how it would handle.
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 12:49 PM
  #24  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!
I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is
That wasn't really what I meant.

I was referring more to the fact that it would be RWD with a short wheelbase, and how it would handle.

Yeah sorry, What I mean was.. I said to Danny myself "I take it, its going 4x4 due to the wheel base?"

He then said , no its not due to the mounting etc.. so its going RWD, But Danny seems to be sure it'll handle all ok with the work being done
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 01:15 PM
  #25  
Alan s1's Avatar
Alan s1
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,053
Likes: 0
From: oxfordshire/berkshire
Default




Ps i bet this KA is finished before my saph
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:17 PM
  #26  
McGoo 69's Avatar
McGoo 69
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,460
Likes: 2
From: Los Santos haha!
Default

gonna be a mint project

sweet lump too
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:45 PM
  #27  
TimC's Avatar
TimC
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 4,367
Likes: 3
From: Skelmersdale, Lancashire
Default

silly spoilers?




oh, dont forget the whole car

Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 03:58 PM
  #28  
McGoo 69's Avatar
McGoo 69
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 2,460
Likes: 2
From: Los Santos haha!
Default

a whole new meaning to whale tail lol
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 04:11 PM
  #29  
Dan's Avatar
Dan
20K+ Super Poster.
 
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 22,888
Likes: 0
From: Local, when i'm home...
Default

Originally Posted by Sidewayz
Cool Project, is this gonna have tiger strips, blue wheels, great big gay spolier on the back? lol


there are a few YB'd Ka's using an Evo gearbox which is cool, so this should be intresting
Plain white Lee, almost a proper sleeper, bar the arches

Nice one Richie, glad you got on and went with it, I've been dying to say for about 6 bloody months!

Gonna be a proper little weapon, hurry up and get it done ahead of schedule so B9 can get the treatment it deserves!
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:35 PM
  #30  
Richie.'s Avatar
Richie.
Thread Starter
aka Turbosailorboy
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 21
From: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine
Default

Thanks for all the comments guys


The intention is for it to be a proper sleeper which is the main reason for going rwd. The DJM versions use the Evo gearbox and transfer box with the engine mounted transverse like an Evo. I want the engine in the classic in line configuration, which would mean a bonnet bulge to rival B9KOS' rear spoiler if the engine was mounted to allow the front driveshafts to line up. There will be no tiger stripes or comedy spoilers and certainly no colourful wheels The only give away externally will be the 'Ford Racing' arches (staying black), privacy glass (to hide the roll cage) and the fact that its will mainly be going sideways

The handling is something that has been thought about alot with the wheel base being approx 6 inches shorter than a Escort/Focos conversion. The reduction in track should help to make it more balanced


The yellow SVM was powered by a transverse Zetec turbo, a Puma front end and ran on 19 centrelocks
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:38 PM
  #31  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk


Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power

Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:48 PM
  #32  
Richie.'s Avatar
Richie.
Thread Starter
aka Turbosailorboy
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 21
From: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine
Default

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk


Why a .63? why not a .48? the cars gonna be light enough as it is, surely you dont want that much power

Hopefully the ALS will get rid of the lag
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:54 PM
  #33  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

But why a .63?
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 05:57 PM
  #34  
Richie.'s Avatar
Richie.
Thread Starter
aka Turbosailorboy
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,527
Likes: 21
From: Under the water.... .......in a nuclear submarine
Default

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
But why a .63?
Because i have a brand new one on the dining room table
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:06 PM
  #35  
Charlie Chalk's Avatar
Charlie Chalk
Unknown.
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 50,873
Likes: 1
From: ...
Default

Fair enough
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:28 PM
  #36  
trevCOSS's Avatar
trevCOSS
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,358
Likes: 0
From: plymouth
Default

Originally Posted by Dan
Gonna be a proper little weapon, hurry up and get it done ahead of schedule so B9 can get the treatment it deserves!
I wasnt aware he was scrapping B9?
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:46 PM
  #37  
trevCOSS's Avatar
trevCOSS
Advanced PassionFord User
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 2,358
Likes: 0
From: plymouth
Default

Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Charlie Chalk
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Mega short wheelbase mate....... might be a little interesting!
I said this to Danny B... they'll have trouble with 4x4 and mounting the engine, so RWD it is
That wasn't really what I meant.

I was referring more to the fact that it would be RWD with a short wheelbase, and how it would handle.

Yeah sorry, What I mean was.. I said to Danny myself "I take it, its going 4x4 due to the wheel base?"

He then said , no its not due to the mounting etc.. so its going RWD, But Danny seems to be sure it'll handle all ok with the work being done
Ford KA wheelbase = 2446mm
Mk 2 Escort wheelbase = 2408mm
Talbot Sunbeam wheelbase = 2413mm

short yes but no shorter than some other rear drive cars that have also seen similar power
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:49 PM
  #38  
MAD EVO 4's Avatar
MAD EVO 4
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 9,932
Likes: 1
From: Sandhurst, Berkshire
Default

I want 1st passenger ride


Look forward to seeing you on wednesday rich

Do you want me to post more pics ?
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 06:56 PM
  #39  
mikee_rs's Avatar
mikee_rs
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,161
Likes: 0
From: Reading / High Wycombe
Default

mad project
Reply
Old Dec 10, 2007 | 07:27 PM
  #40  
RONNIE AMIS's Avatar
RONNIE AMIS
PassionFord Post Whore!!
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 5,618
Likes: 0
Default

mental! good luck with it all mate
Reply



All times are GMT. The time now is 11:06 PM.