E36 328 Sport or Classic Scooby WRX?? or Skyline GTS-T?
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Now that the excitement should be dying down,
I thought it was safe to put up a new topic asking advice!
I'm going to get rid of the Leon soon and get shut of my finance, so I will be buying something a little cheaper, around the £3.5 - £4k band. At the minute I am leaning towards an E36 as a good all round solid car that has a nice bit of pace and should be pretty bulletproof (provided it's had a block change to sort the nikasil issue) but the Scooby is also turning my head a little as a faster car.... However, I am thinking I'd be better off with the N/A car as the old turbo on a mid 90s Impreza is just another thing to let go and cost me money plus I think it will be harder to find a nice one.....
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I thought it was safe to put up a new topic asking advice!I'm going to get rid of the Leon soon and get shut of my finance, so I will be buying something a little cheaper, around the £3.5 - £4k band. At the minute I am leaning towards an E36 as a good all round solid car that has a nice bit of pace and should be pretty bulletproof (provided it's had a block change to sort the nikasil issue) but the Scooby is also turning my head a little as a faster car.... However, I am thinking I'd be better off with the N/A car as the old turbo on a mid 90s Impreza is just another thing to let go and cost me money plus I think it will be harder to find a nice one.....
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Aye, I've never been big on logic OR sense
Trying to take control and sort my shit out tho lol. And the 328i responds really well to breathing mods, and I believe I could see 220bhp out of one for relativey little expenditure, i.e. manifold, induction, remap and exhaust.
Trying to take control and sort my shit out tho lol. And the 328i responds really well to breathing mods, and I believe I could see 220bhp out of one for relativey little expenditure, i.e. manifold, induction, remap and exhaust.
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
M3 evo mate,thats what you need
cheeRS stu
cheeRS stu
Couldn't realistically repair an M3 if it went wrong mate. Maybe in 09.
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If I had 4k no way would i buy an ol 3 Series bm
Would buy a nice TVR 390 wedge for that
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/294157.htm
Much more fun
Would buy a nice TVR 390 wedge for that
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/294157.htm
Much more fun
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Originally Posted by 900ss
If I had 4k no way would i buy an ol 3 Series bm
Would buy a nice TVR 390 wedge for that
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/294157.htm
Much more fun
Would buy a nice TVR 390 wedge for that
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/294157.htm
Much more fun
Deffo an acquired taste! It IS cool tho.
But it's about buying something half decent that I can afford to maintain. What happens if one of those things goes wrong?! Where the heck do the parts come from?!
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
Where the heck do the parts come from?!

Fook me I just put a deposit on a 5k+ Datsun 260z. If I worried about spare parts thats the last car I would buy
enjoy it whilst you can
Got rid of my Cossie & now have a M3 Evo, its no hassle at all & great on long journeys
the 328 Sport is a really nice car & cheap to run,cheap ins to, Subaru's are a bit chav
If you get a 328 sport don't chav it up
they look best completely standard, no stupid lights,spoilers or chav wheels
Simon.
the 328 Sport is a really nice car & cheap to run,cheap ins to, Subaru's are a bit chav
If you get a 328 sport don't chav it up
they look best completely standard, no stupid lights,spoilers or chav wheels
Simon.
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
Editted title to add Skyline R33 GTS-T. Would it be wise to consider one? 

I've got one of the last Celica GT4s [UK spec and standard, pretty rare now] that's in your budget. They're not bad? Pig dog slow though compared to the skylines.
And I wouldn't toucha £4k M3 personally, may as well buy one for £7k and at least have a nice one, than spend £3k on top of your budget fixing up what will always be a high mileage car.
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Paddy - totally spot on with the M3 comments I think.
What are the Skylines like to maintain etc? I'm worried about getting one that's been thrashed. I really need something at least quite reliable... and witht hem being imports I haven't seen any ads on the trader tonight that state FSH....
What are the Skylines like to maintain etc? I'm worried about getting one that's been thrashed. I really need something at least quite reliable... and witht hem being imports I haven't seen any ads on the trader tonight that state FSH....
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
What are the Skylines like to maintain etc? I'm worried about getting one that's been thrashed. I really need something at least quite reliable... and witht hem being imports I haven't seen any ads on the trader tonight that state FSH.... 
Ring them up and ask them? Most imports don't have any history from Japan, so they wouldn't say FSH
just make sureit's been looked after in this country.To be honest mate, the ones I've had [and used a couple, one non turbo and one GTS-t for a bit] have been brilliantly reliable and the parts for them haven't been anymore expensive than any other car.
Plus the engines and layout are so simple you can do most things yourself quickly and easily, there's actually room under the bonnet
If you're doing a cambelt though, get the part from nissan WITH a pulley as I've done a couple now and if you don't get the original bits, they tend to squeak like fuck.
If you want performance youd be out of your mind to choose a 328 over an R33GTST if we talking the same money.
Id prob have an M3 over one though if I wasnt planning to tune it though, and id deffo have an M3 Evo over one regardless.
Id prob have an M3 over one though if I wasnt planning to tune it though, and id deffo have an M3 Evo over one regardless.
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i'm convinced a 4k M3 would be asking for trouble to be honest. I want something that is fairly quick, not lightning obviously with the cars mentioned but a car where I won't dread servicing it or fear parts dropping off!
Get a nice 3.0 M3 for 4k, prices have dropped lately.
Mine's on 131k miles now, oils not needing any topping up for 24k miles of owning, and revs to 7700.
For type of car it is is cheap to maintain, and mpg will average high 20's if you don't sit in too much traffic.
Very good all rounders, and a sensible choice in many ways.
Crikey, first post and it's about a bmw, what a good start
Mine's on 131k miles now, oils not needing any topping up for 24k miles of owning, and revs to 7700.
For type of car it is is cheap to maintain, and mpg will average high 20's if you don't sit in too much traffic.
Very good all rounders, and a sensible choice in many ways.
Crikey, first post and it's about a bmw, what a good start
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You fuckers have got me looking at M3's now 
http://pistonheads.com/sales/270118.htm
If I was ready to buy now, that would be perfect. Didn't realise they were available in decent nick at that money. It's not an Evo but it's nice.
Still liking the Skylines tho..... Argh why can I never make up my mind

http://pistonheads.com/sales/270118.htm
If I was ready to buy now, that would be perfect. Didn't realise they were available in decent nick at that money. It's not an Evo but it's nice.
Still liking the Skylines tho..... Argh why can I never make up my mind
When I bought mine I had a budget of 8k, and went for a late non evo.
Many prefer them, myself included; nicer box and clutch, and less chance of a 2k bill for new vanos unit, which seem to last 2k miles, or 200k miles, depending on your luck on the dual vanos evo.
Get one above 5000 revs, and reckon you'll be sold
Many prefer them, myself included; nicer box and clutch, and less chance of a 2k bill for new vanos unit, which seem to last 2k miles, or 200k miles, depending on your luck on the dual vanos evo.
Get one above 5000 revs, and reckon you'll be sold
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Originally Posted by PeterLucas
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/bmw-328i-sport-m-tech-328_W0QQitemZ270192483374QQihZ017QQcategoryZ9837QQ ssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
My one, cheap enough
My one, cheap enough

Originally Posted by DogSmoke
Just thinking though, I'm with Greenlight for my insurance and my policy runs til May..... and they don't touch M3's do they? 
No they don't...you'll have to cancel, like me
Dont buy on mileage. Buy on general condition.
Id put money on many high milers being better cars than low milers. And that goes for any car, not just M3's. You can get decent high mile cars for much less money, doesnt mean there not as good.
Also, many high mile cars have had the major things replaced and sorted, whereas on many low mile cars, its only a matter of time before they let go.
Id put money on many high milers being better cars than low milers. And that goes for any car, not just M3's. You can get decent high mile cars for much less money, doesnt mean there not as good.
Also, many high mile cars have had the major things replaced and sorted, whereas on many low mile cars, its only a matter of time before they let go.
Also, id go for a non evo. As mentioned the vanos unit on the evo's are a bit hit and miss, and very costly.
And MANY evo's dont kick out anywhere near the quoted figures, and dont seem to come out at much more power than a non evo once on a proper rolling road.
And MANY evo's dont kick out anywhere near the quoted figures, and dont seem to come out at much more power than a non evo once on a proper rolling road.
3.0 litres are sought after under 100k miles, be lucky to get anything respectable for your budget
Yeah evo's are 316 brake, not 321 (din) and are obd2, so unless thrashed for a bit before rr will be down on that as they trim settings for economy.
3.0's always make their power if not more, and never much between them on the 1/4 mile.
Is a squarer engine too, better for high revs (safe to 8400).
As for mileage, well my box and diff are quiet, and as I said no oil use in 24k miles, not bad for a highly strung high mileage engine.
Soon be selling for an old sierra though lol.
Edit/ Pollocks - 3.0 is single vanos.
Yeah evo's are 316 brake, not 321 (din) and are obd2, so unless thrashed for a bit before rr will be down on that as they trim settings for economy.
3.0's always make their power if not more, and never much between them on the 1/4 mile.
Is a squarer engine too, better for high revs (safe to 8400).
As for mileage, well my box and diff are quiet, and as I said no oil use in 24k miles, not bad for a highly strung high mileage engine.
Soon be selling for an old sierra though lol.
Edit/ Pollocks - 3.0 is single vanos.
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Originally Posted by bud-weis
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
Just thinking though, I'm with Greenlight for my insurance and my policy runs til May..... and they don't touch M3's do they? 
No they don't...you'll have to cancel, like me
Bastards.....
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
That's no good, I get my 3rd year of no claims in May. Can't really afford to be cancelling.
Bastards.....
Bastards.....
Anyway, your view of our parental status at Greenlight aside, i'll do my best to comment on your quandry:
ABI listed Skyline R32 R33 R34 GTS/R 2.5 models ARE acceptable to some of our Underwriters - from memory, the one you're with can do this.
M3 wise, we can place the E30 & E46 as neither of these have ruined our Underwriters to date, but not the E36 (due to abysmal historic claims stats).
Impreza wise, we can cover ALL UK models - but direct imports from Japan are not covered due to Subaru UK not supporting repair or supply of parts.
Modifications are not a problem - once you have sourced a suitable vehicle we cover practically any vehicle modification up to & including nitrous oxide + roll cages.
Kind regards
Tony
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Originally Posted by Tony @ Greenlight
Originally Posted by DogSmoke
That's no good, I get my 3rd year of no claims in May. Can't really afford to be cancelling.
Bastards.....
Bastards.....
Anyway, your view of our parental status at Greenlight aside, i'll do my best to comment on your quandry:
ABI listed Skyline R32 R33 R34 GTS/R 2.5 models ARE acceptable to some of our Underwriters - from memory, the one you're with can do this.
M3 wise, we can place the E30 & E46 as neither of these have ruined our Underwriters to date, but not the E36 (due to abysmal historic claims stats).
Impreza wise, we can cover ALL UK models - but direct imports from Japan are not covered due to Subaru UK not supporting repair or supply of parts.
Modifications are not a problem - once you have sourced a suitable vehicle we cover practically any vehicle modification up to & including nitrous oxide + roll cages.
Kind regards
Tony
Had both, would go for the Evo, no question what anyone says. Still have it after 21k miles, used it for work day in day out, ripped the shit out of it on most occasions and had zero troubles, been a joy to own but is just a toy/statue that sits around now lol. Plenty places will insure you for cheap money, try first alternative
I have had the 3.0 M3 & the Evo, sold the 3.0 after nearly 3yrs of trouble free motoring including a 1500 mile round trip upto & around Scotland & back to Kent, sold it with 123k on it, only thing was servicing was expensive as it had full main dealer hist insp2 was about £800 inc rear trailing arm bushes but it was a lot cheaper to maintain than my Cossie that i had at the same time. Had the Evo a few months its deffo quicker & feels a better car than the 3.0 i had, all i've spent on it is 6 months tax & 1 brake light bulb, if you buy a good one you can't go wrong, they are nowhere near as exciting to drive as a stage 3 Cossie but they are a easy car to live with day to day.
Simon.
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