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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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Default Bosch 403 Grey injectors

Does anyone know the flow rates and lag times of all the different cosworth injectors. Im mainly after information on the grey 403s but a chart with all the types would be useful.

Ive googled this but cant seem to come up with much
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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If you give me the FULL number of the greys, I can look them up for you.
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:34 PM
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tabetha, a while back i bought what i thought where greys, turns out they are are grey but not the ones us cossie users have, it seems to have a proper bosch number on, if i find out the number, can you find out the flow rates etc?
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Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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FEATURES of the 403 - GREY in color/colour, / Low impedance / Coil resistance 2.6 Ohms / Peak and hold type / common L-LE Jet 2 pin electrical connector / unusual ends / length dimensions as per standard EFI injector (65 mm c/c between O-Rings) / single pintle.
Flow rate - Charts show 503 cc/min (49.3 lbs/hr) @100% duty cycle, presumed at a pressure of 3 Bar (43.5 psi). USA based www.dune-buggy.com and others show a higher flow 55 lbs/hr @ 45 psi. (Feedback from P Bradley) -403 injectors - had them cleaned and flowed. At line pressure of 43.5 psi, they flow about 59 lb/hr or about 600 cc/min at 100% duty cycle, flat out. Wide open they flowed 114 cc after 11.4 seconds, and pulsed flow 102 cc after 21.2 seconds.

for the whole page look at:

http://wwwrsphysse.anu.edu.au/~amh11...l_injector.htm

hope this page helps at bit,

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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Cheers Rinus, thats very helpfull

Tabetha, the number on the box is 0280150403
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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The above numer 0-280-150-403., shows the following,
FLOW= LBS/HR 47.9, CC/MIN = 503.4, GRAMS/MIN 362.1
Rating 43.5 PSI/3 BAR, these are LOW impedance injectors fitted as standard kit to FORD 5.0i HO.
The listing also contains BSFC data, not really of any use.
NOTE:
THERE IS ANOTHER INJECTOR OF THE EXACT SAME NUMBER, which has different flow, but this is most likely due to a pressure increase, as the flow is higher.
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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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lol the ones i got ripped off for on flea bay are 0-280-150-129
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Don't use them they are JAGUAR ones for 3.2/3.6, have way smaller flow as BSFC is totally different.
0-280-150-129 are,
191.3 CC/min, where as 0-28-150-403 are 503.4 CC/min.

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i didnt, when i took them to Karl to be fitted, he said i dont know WTF these are but they are not greys. so bought some new ones.

i'll put them in the bin then, now that i know what they are
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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Sell them on ebay for jaguar bits.
Nice to know someone does not give a shit about your engine going bang so long as he makes a few bucks out of you selling these!!
Hooray for KARL spotting that, could have been expensive otherwise!!
Were they the same colour etc as the "cossie" ones ?
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yeah looked the same, but (hard to explain) but the nozzle (if thats what you call it) had the rubber o ring built in, where as proper greys, have an exposed end if you know what i mean?
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good job karl knows what he is lloking at or you would have a nice pile of molten metal

what bhp do greys go up to , roughly .
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Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
yeah looked the same, but (hard to explain) but the nozzle (if thats what you call it) had the rubber o ring built in, where as proper greys, have an exposed end if you know what i mean?
do you a photo of those?
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Originally Posted by cosy trav
good job karl knows what he is lloking at or you would have a nice pile of molten metal

what bhp do greys go up to , roughly .
depends who you speak too, but i have seen cars upto about 400 ish bhp on them
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Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
Originally Posted by cosy trav
good job karl knows what he is lloking at or you would have a nice pile of molten metal

what bhp do greys go up to , roughly .
depends who you speak too, but i have seen cars upto about 400 ish bhp on them
Mines @ 428bhp on Greys.. not for long though, 1000cc on the way

Before you say anything, thery were on the car when i got it and yes they're on the limit..
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Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
Originally Posted by cosy trav
good job karl knows what he is lloking at or you would have a nice pile of molten metal

what bhp do greys go up to , roughly .
depends who you speak too, but i have seen cars upto about 400 ish bhp on them
Mines @ 428bhp on Greys.. not for long though, 1000cc on the way

Before you say anyhting, thery were on the car when i got it and yes they're on the limit..
you decided which turbo yet, Pete?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
Originally Posted by cosy trav
good job karl knows what he is lloking at or you would have a nice pile of molten metal

what bhp do greys go up to , roughly .
depends who you speak too, but i have seen cars upto about 400 ish bhp on them
Mines @ 428bhp on Greys.. not for long though, 1000cc on the way

Before you say anyhting, thery were on the car when i got it and yes they're on the limit..
you decided which turbo yet, Pete?


Yes pal, GT30 .....

How's things anyway? we'll have to meet up and have a chin wag..
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
Originally Posted by staffi
Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
Originally Posted by cosy trav
good job karl knows what he is lloking at or you would have a nice pile of molten metal

what bhp do greys go up to , roughly .
depends who you speak too, but i have seen cars upto about 400 ish bhp on them
Mines @ 428bhp on Greys.. not for long though, 1000cc on the way

Before you say anyhting, thery were on the car when i got it and yes they're on the limit..
you decided which turbo yet, Pete?


Yes pal, GT30 .....

How's things anyway? we'll have to meet up and have a chin wag..
yeah im good mate, should have car back on the road within the next couple of weeks, still got the paintwork to sort out though, have you been to the central meet recenty?
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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I haven't no, when's the next one?? is it still the same place?? i've only been once and then i got lost, came back with Jake..
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havn't been since i blew my car up on the way back from the isle of wight show, no idea when the next one is
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
havn't been since i blew my car up on the way back from the isle of wight show, no idea when the next one is

did'nt know you'd done this, i've been on the Jap side though.. who's doing what to it now then amd what's the spec??
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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i've had the head rebuilt with new valves etc and lightly ported other than that its pretty much the same plus a few shiney bits, next step is a big box
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Originally Posted by DaBoy12s
i've had the head rebuilt with new valves etc and lightly ported other than that its pretty much the same plus a few shiney bits, next step is a big box
big box = big money .. worth it though..
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well i thought it was about time a 4x4 saff upsets all you 2wd boys

plenty of escos's but very few saffs
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