Do you like real fur?Watch how the Chinese get there product
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The Chinese are one of the cruellest nations in the world. They have NO animal cruelty laws, thats right, absolutely nothing.
As you know it's a country that's fast developing, doing more and more business with the west, becoming richer, is hosting the next olympics, but this sort of thing is widespread and not illegal in China.
Sorry if this offends anyone I know it's a car BBS, but this sort of thing needs to exposed, and people get angry about it, thats why I'm posting. China is very keen to do business with the west and they are well aware of how we perceive them.
This video shows how they get fur from an animal, they do the same for dog and cat fur, they boil dogs and cats ALIVE to eat.
PLEASE heed this WARNING. If you're younger than 16 please please don't watch this. If you're squeamish dont watch this it WILL upset you. I've seen all sorts on the net over the years, this has been the only thing that made me wretch to be physically sick.
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video....farm&Player=wm
As you know it's a country that's fast developing, doing more and more business with the west, becoming richer, is hosting the next olympics, but this sort of thing is widespread and not illegal in China.
Sorry if this offends anyone I know it's a car BBS, but this sort of thing needs to exposed, and people get angry about it, thats why I'm posting. China is very keen to do business with the west and they are well aware of how we perceive them.
This video shows how they get fur from an animal, they do the same for dog and cat fur, they boil dogs and cats ALIVE to eat.
PLEASE heed this WARNING. If you're younger than 16 please please don't watch this. If you're squeamish dont watch this it WILL upset you. I've seen all sorts on the net over the years, this has been the only thing that made me wretch to be physically sick.
http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video....farm&Player=wm
TBH it absolutely churns my stomach thinking of dogs and cats being boiled alive, but at the same time it makes me a total hypocrit as I dont think twice about the fact that in this country people do exactly the same thing with lobsters.
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I guess we are all hypocrites to some degree about something, I think cooking lobsters alive is cruel too. Watch the vid chip i couldn't believe some people could do something like that.
This happens is China, hosting our next olympic games, now a major player on the world scene possibly the only other superpower.
If people want to eat whatever animal dog cat cow sheep monkeys whatever or wear real fur there's not alot we can do about it but surely EVERY country, especially one as 'developed' as China, should make a humane death for animals the LAW.
They are fucking Heathans (sp?). They Chinese and Japs used to skin each other alive for fun when they were at war so it's probably second nature.
This happens is China, hosting our next olympic games, now a major player on the world scene possibly the only other superpower.
If people want to eat whatever animal dog cat cow sheep monkeys whatever or wear real fur there's not alot we can do about it but surely EVERY country, especially one as 'developed' as China, should make a humane death for animals the LAW.
They are fucking Heathans (sp?). They Chinese and Japs used to skin each other alive for fun when they were at war so it's probably second nature.
Majority on here eat MCds without a care in the world so the hypocrit thing stretches further then we think.
Chickens, cows, lambs etc see terrible deaths but we still love Maccies, funny old world hey.
Chickens, cows, lambs etc see terrible deaths but we still love Maccies, funny old world hey.
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Feel free to ignore this post as a "heartless tangent" as im going to talk about money now.......
Economically the implications of countries such as these becoming major players in the global economy is potentially devestating, when you have NO regard for animal cruelty and scarcely any for human safety etc, the potential to make things cheaply is massive, there is NO WAY that we can ever have a manufacturing base in this country that makes financial sense while places like china are able to operate on such a totally different set of rules.
Feel free to ignore this post as a "heartless tangent" as im going to talk about money now.......
Economically the implications of countries such as these becoming major players in the global economy is potentially devestating, when you have NO regard for animal cruelty and scarcely any for human safety etc, the potential to make things cheaply is massive, there is NO WAY that we can ever have a manufacturing base in this country that makes financial sense while places like china are able to operate on such a totally different set of rules.
Quick question, and I'm guessing the answer is because they are just disgusting people, but why dont they kill the animal first? I know drugs would be too expensive, but why not just break their neck or slit their throat or something?
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
Originally Posted by ballin
Quick question, and I'm guessing the answer is because they are just disgusting people, but why dont they kill the animal first? I know drugs would be too expensive, but why not just break their neck or slit their throat or something?
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
Because companies are run for profit, the ONLY reason that animals in this country get a slight (and i do mean slight!) amount of respect from their keepers is because there is pressure applied to them in order to do so, if you removed that legal/social pressure from them in this country then chicken farms and pig farms etc in this country would slide to a similar standard probably!
Originally Posted by TURBO BOY
I would like to go ut there with
a couple of these and do the c**nts in and release the animals.
a couple of these and do the c**nts in and release the animals.They are just doing a job in a culture where such things are perfectly acceptable.
Somewhere there might be a planet full of people who would condemn me similarly for swatting flies, or putting out mouse traps, or ant poison etc as my culture hasnt taught me not to so to me those things seem acceptable.
I regard myself as pretty strong when it comes to dodgy videos and usually watch them down to some morbid fucked up reason , but being a cat lover and reading the comments and I can't even make myself click the link.
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Originally Posted by ballin
Quick question, and I'm guessing the answer is because they are just disgusting people, but why dont they kill the animal first? I know drugs would be too expensive, but why not just break their neck or slit their throat or something?
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
Chip - i agree that money dictates they cant do things we do as in trying to kill an animal humanely....but just to slit its throat costs nothing surely.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by TURBO BOY
I would like to go ut there with
a couple of these and do the c**nts in and release the animals.
a couple of these and do the c**nts in and release the animals.They are just doing a job in a culture where such things are perfectly acceptable.
Somewhere there might be a planet full of people who would condemn me similarly for swatting flies, or putting out mouse traps, or ant poison etc as my culture hasnt taught me not to so to me those things seem acceptable.
Originally Posted by christianh3
Originally Posted by ballin
Quick question, and I'm guessing the answer is because they are just disgusting people, but why dont they kill the animal first? I know drugs would be too expensive, but why not just break their neck or slit their throat or something?
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
anything is better than skinning them, pulling their fur over their head then leaving a living animal with no skin just dying on the floor, poor fukin thing was still blinking and breathing, genuinely upsetting
Chip - i agree that money dictates they cant do things we do as in trying to kill an animal humanely....but just to slit its throat costs nothing surely.
More people like yourself prepared to talk about it and hopefully put people off buying such items is one way to show them that the world their customers live in doesnt want this done for our benefit, but I suspect its going to be 50+ years before a change is seen at a minimum!
its is truely shocking

the evil twats, i cant believe someone could do something like that to a poor defenceless animal. even more shocking this that the government dont care or do anything about
lets go out chink/jap bashing!
the evil twats, i cant believe someone could do something like that to a poor defenceless animal. even more shocking this that the government dont care or do anything about
lets go out chink/jap bashing!
Originally Posted by christianh3
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by TURBO BOY
I would like to go ut there with
a couple of these and do the c**nts in and release the animals.
a couple of these and do the c**nts in and release the animals.They are just doing a job in a culture where such things are perfectly acceptable.
Somewhere there might be a planet full of people who would condemn me similarly for swatting flies, or putting out mouse traps, or ant poison etc as my culture hasnt taught me not to so to me those things seem acceptable.
A mouse in a trap suffers as badly as the dogs and cats do, so our culture isnt so much different, we just have a system where by if an animal is cute, we tend to humanise how we treat it.
At least their culture is "honest" in that it treats all animals with utter contempt, not just some of them like ours does!
I wouldn't say a mouse was quite the same. The rate at which that trap comes down on its head/neck snaps it immediately or crushes their head. 9/10 times I bet they don't even know it happened.
If you are vegetarian, and think that gives you exemption from adding to the misery pain and suffering of animals, then spare a second to think about how rabbits are kept from eating the crops by the deliberate use of the disease myxomatosis, a death FAR more horrid than anything that happens to cats/dogs/cows that are killed for food.
Guilt free food?
Im not aware of ANY!
Guilt free food?
Im not aware of ANY!
Originally Posted by Terry Tibbs
I wouldn't say a mouse was quite the same. The rate at which that trap comes down on its head/neck snaps it immediately or crushes their head. 9/10 times I bet they don't even know it happened.
If you think a mousetrap always hits the neck, rather than trapping the mouse by its limbs to suffer then you obviously havent seen many.
not much more than 50% effective in "instant death" based on what ive seen first hand from their use, its genuinely unpleasant, and even more so if you arent meticulous about checking the traps often!
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Chip we dont skin mice and let then die do we? We don't boil them alive?
Plus we kill them because they are vermin and can be a health hazard.
Those animals were killed for fur in a terrible way, i don't blame the chinese personally, as u say they know no different. Our governments need to get on theirs, people need to voice concern.....so yes it'll be aoubt 50 years before anythings done....it's not involving oil after all.
Swatting flies and poisoning ants aint comparable. Animals of that size have advanced neurological nervous systems capable of feeling FEAR, pain, they recognize fear in other animals. Skinning a large animal alive is not comparable to poisoning ants or setting mouse traps.
Edited to add : Chip, you mentioned you can't watch the vid while a t work....watch it later and see if you still compare our mousetraps and ant poison to what the vid depicts.
To me, culture or not, this sort of behaviour should surely be abhorrent to the innermost pysche of ANY culture or creed. Culture is eating certain animals i.e. we eat cows, they eat dogs, and although we find it uncomfortable this is their culture.
However, what this vid shows is not culture, this is pure evil cruelty.
Plus we kill them because they are vermin and can be a health hazard.
Those animals were killed for fur in a terrible way, i don't blame the chinese personally, as u say they know no different. Our governments need to get on theirs, people need to voice concern.....so yes it'll be aoubt 50 years before anythings done....it's not involving oil after all.
Swatting flies and poisoning ants aint comparable. Animals of that size have advanced neurological nervous systems capable of feeling FEAR, pain, they recognize fear in other animals. Skinning a large animal alive is not comparable to poisoning ants or setting mouse traps.
Edited to add : Chip, you mentioned you can't watch the vid while a t work....watch it later and see if you still compare our mousetraps and ant poison to what the vid depicts.
To me, culture or not, this sort of behaviour should surely be abhorrent to the innermost pysche of ANY culture or creed. Culture is eating certain animals i.e. we eat cows, they eat dogs, and although we find it uncomfortable this is their culture.
However, what this vid shows is not culture, this is pure evil cruelty.
Cant watch it from the description
I have no problem with them killing the cats or dogs as we all eat cow, chicken etc which
As noted the problem is with the way they are doing it, leaving them to die of there own accord after being skinned is just plain wrong and something should be done about it
animals at the top of the food chain sometimes play with their prey for fun but what is described seems to be plain lazy !!
I have no problem with them killing the cats or dogs as we all eat cow, chicken etc which
As noted the problem is with the way they are doing it, leaving them to die of there own accord after being skinned is just plain wrong and something should be done about it
animals at the top of the food chain sometimes play with their prey for fun but what is described seems to be plain lazy !!
Originally Posted by christianh3
Chip we dont skin mice and let then die do we? We don't boil them alive?
Plus we kill them because they are vermin and can be a health hazard.
Those animals were killed for fur in a terrible way, i don't blame the chinese personally, as u say they know no different. Our governments need to get on theirs, people need to voice concern.....so yes it'll be aoubt 50 years before anythings done....it's not involving oil after all.
Swatting flies and poisoning ants aint comparable. Animals of that size have advanced neurological nervous systems capable of feeling FEAR, pain, they recognize fear in other animals. Skinning a large animal alive is not comparable to poisoning ants or setting mouse traps.
Plus we kill them because they are vermin and can be a health hazard.
Those animals were killed for fur in a terrible way, i don't blame the chinese personally, as u say they know no different. Our governments need to get on theirs, people need to voice concern.....so yes it'll be aoubt 50 years before anythings done....it's not involving oil after all.
Swatting flies and poisoning ants aint comparable. Animals of that size have advanced neurological nervous systems capable of feeling FEAR, pain, they recognize fear in other animals. Skinning a large animal alive is not comparable to poisoning ants or setting mouse traps.
Mice feel pain, so do chickens and other farm animals we mistreat over here, and I would sooner be killed as those cats are than trapped in agony for days dieing in a trap that hasnt quite hit me right as a mouse often is in this country.
Dont misunderstand me here, I am most certainly NOT ignoring or justifying what happens to those poor cats and dogs, im just saying that most of the people in this country who think they are so much better at treating animals, in fact dont realise the things that happen in their name over here too!
Originally Posted by TURBO BOY
Majority on here eat MCds without a care in the world so the hypocrit thing stretches further then we think.
Chickens, cows, lambs etc see terrible deaths but we still love Maccies, funny old world hey.
Chickens, cows, lambs etc see terrible deaths but we still love Maccies, funny old world hey.
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
TBH it absolutely churns my stomach thinking of dogs and cats being boiled alive, but at the same time it makes me a total hypocrit as I dont think twice about the fact that in this country people do exactly the same thing with lobsters.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by christianh3
Chip we dont skin mice and let then die do we? We don't boil them alive?
Plus we kill them because they are vermin and can be a health hazard.
Those animals were killed for fur in a terrible way, i don't blame the chinese personally, as u say they know no different. Our governments need to get on theirs, people need to voice concern.....so yes it'll be aoubt 50 years before anythings done....it's not involving oil after all.
Swatting flies and poisoning ants aint comparable. Animals of that size have advanced neurological nervous systems capable of feeling FEAR, pain, they recognize fear in other animals. Skinning a large animal alive is not comparable to poisoning ants or setting mouse traps.
Plus we kill them because they are vermin and can be a health hazard.
Those animals were killed for fur in a terrible way, i don't blame the chinese personally, as u say they know no different. Our governments need to get on theirs, people need to voice concern.....so yes it'll be aoubt 50 years before anythings done....it's not involving oil after all.
Swatting flies and poisoning ants aint comparable. Animals of that size have advanced neurological nervous systems capable of feeling FEAR, pain, they recognize fear in other animals. Skinning a large animal alive is not comparable to poisoning ants or setting mouse traps.
Mice feel pain, so do chickens and other farm animals we mistreat over here, and I would sooner be killed as those cats are than trapped in agony for days dieing in a trap that hasnt quite hit me right as a mouse often is in this country.
Dont misunderstand me here, I am most certainly NOT ignoring or justifying what happens to those poor cats and dogs, im just saying that most of the people in this country who think they are so much better at treating animals, in fact dont realise the things that happen in their name over here too!
Watch the vid mate when you get home you'll be shocked
I just clicked it. Normally I'm pretty good with squeamish things - doesn't bother me that much, and I don't really give a shit about domestic animals either, but I had to switch the vid off. I just couldn't watch it.




