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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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Don’t know if this is a repost but can ford make up their mind.
One second it’s on then it’s off lol

This taken form http://www.carmagazine.co.uk

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...sid=818&page=1

What's going on here then? New hubcaps for the Focus?
How droll. No, what you are looking at is the first spy shot of the new Focus RS. Yes, the car they said they wouldn't do is back on track, so to speak. Caught after a few sneaky laps of the Nürburgring this week, this black mule hides the next generation RS. It's early days yet. First, Ford is expected to unveil an RS concept at the Geneva motor show, alongside a refreshed and facelifted Focus. Then expect the real thing to arrive this time next year.

It'll be worth the wait, through. Although Ford suits deny the very existence of the car, our sources claim the hot RS will be powered by a heavily revised version of the blown 2.5-litre five-pot in the current ST, running through a close-ratio six-speed 'box to a Volvo-sourced all-wheel drive system. Which means none of the wayward handling characteristics of the previous RS. Thank goodness.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...sid=818&page=2

So what's all that gubbins on the wheels?
Those are advanced electronic load-monitors. Attached to the wheels and front suspension, they store data on the car's ride and handling characteristics according to both the road conditions and the weight of the engine. Ford's engineers are having to go back to scratch to rework the car's underpinnings because of the four-wheel drive layout, tweaked steering, uprated suspension and heavily overhauled engine.

The 2522cc engine gets fitted with new variable intake and exhaust manifolds, an uprated turbocharger with larger intercooler and oil cooler and reinforced con-rods to deliver a searing 300bhp and an anticipated 280lb ft of torque for monster in-gear acceleration. It's enough muscle to rocket the RS to 60mph in five seconds dead and onto a 165mph top speed. The engine's electronic management system will also be recalibrated for scalpel-sharp throttle responses.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...sid=818&page=3

Whoa! The upcoming Evo X and Impreza STi better be on the lookout
You're not wrong. While the current ST majors on both usable performance and four-season refinement, the RS will be a real wild card. Expect the three-door only RS to be a very frisky and agile little number, and like its Evo X and Impreza STi rivals, capable of humbling much more expensive and powerful machinery

But by keeping it (relatively) simple – there's no double-clutch transmission, driver-adjustable torque control or anti-yaw electronics – the Focus will arrive with a pretty mouth-watering price tag. Expect to pay no more than £28,000 for it when it arrives here next spring. Which should make it a contender for the performance bargain of the year.
http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_...sid=818&page=4

Anything else I should know before I remortgage the house?
It will look fundamentally different to the mule you see here. Come Geneva, the Focus family gets much more than a facelift. Following on from the sleek and sexy new Mondeo, every Focus body panel bar the roof will be new, bringing it into line with Martin Smith’s 'kinetic design' body language. So while mechanical changes will be minimal, the refreshed Focus will look distinctly different to today’s model. It’s the same inside – the Focus gets an all new interior that again borrows heavily from the Mondeo with plenty of soft-touch and alloy-look plastics and considerably more design flair.

The RS will build on these improvements to create a model with serious visual intent. Expect huge 19in alloys hiding vast brake discs to fill the flared wheel arches, a menacing, lane-clearing body kit, bi-Xenon active headlamps, ironing-board rear wing and a much larger front grille to force air into the engine. Inside you’ll find some grippy Recaro seats complete with four-point harnesses, a chunky small-diameter three-spoke steering wheel, that all-important turbo boost gauge and pedals perfectly positioned for heel-and-toe work.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Looks alrite
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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My fingers are crossed
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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I'd quite happily put my wife on the game to get one of them
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Magic Numbers
Looks alrite
looks the same as a ST to me

i'll beleive it when i see it, every 2 mins you hear of new pics n info of the new RS, then the next minute its not,

last i heard they wern't bothering, now there are again

and if it isn't going to be 4WD then theres no point to it
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Rab
I'd quite happily put my wife on the game to get one of them
Pics and prices please

Lets hope they produce em with the RS badge

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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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Ancient history, that storey and those pics must have been doing the rounds for 2 years now...

The fact is FoMoCo are in the shit financially, they can't afford to produce a relatively niche car that would cost 'X' million to make, and sell in small numbers, when they are stuggling to sell mass produced cars...

Face it the RS wont happen, and i'd be supprised to see an ST Version of anything new in the near future either.

That said I'd love to be made to eat my words.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:39 AM
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Sounds as though it'll be rather tasty

Good to have a performance 4x 4 again!
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Why do people think it wont happen?

The floorpan is already ready for the 4wd, the complete 4wd system for that engine and floorpan already exists and is running in certain volvo models, etc etc.

Christ, even a few aftermarket tuners have already put this 4wd system on Focus STs abroad.

So its no work really.

Hope it does happen, be a good car
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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Hmmmm, we'll see..

Would be good, doubtful, but good.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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Because they cant afford to make it.

Fact: Those pics have been doing the rounds for what 2 years now? So even if they released the Car next week, it's already 2 years behind the latest generation Of EVO's etc, Ford won the World Rally Championship last year, and did fuk all about it, take the autosport show for instance, there was no official ford stand FFS, and that was down to them being in financial difficulties... I got that straight from a Guy at MSport.

Goodwood a weeks or so ago... they had the crapest of all the manufaturers dispalys and had fuk all performance cars there...

Every way you look at it, ford just don't care about that market anymore, they need to spend there money on cars that will recoupe the money, ie: mass produced dross.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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So its just an ST thats been changed a bit and their planning on sticking an RS badge on it?

It just wont have the same appeal in my opinion.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by S1rst
So its just an ST thats been changed a bit and their planning on sticking an RS badge on it?

It just wont have the same appeal in my opinion.
Well, yeah... It's got 80 more BHP, 4 wheel drive and will have different bodystyling........


Bit like an escort cossie in that respect
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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So its just an ST thats been changed a bit and their planning on sticking an RS badge on it?

It just wont have the same appeal in my opinion.
Well, yeah... It's got 80 more BHP, 4 wheel drive and will have different bodystyling........


Bit like an escort cossie in that respect
It looks very much the same as the ST to me. Yes more power and 4x4, but they cant just modify the ST underneath and stick an RS badge on it. I think they have to do something drastic with the body to make it worthy of the being an RS, instead of just a new and improved ST. Or will it look totally different to whats in the pics as i didnt read it all.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by Rab
Originally Posted by S1rst
So its just an ST thats been changed a bit and their planning on sticking an RS badge on it?

It just wont have the same appeal in my opinion.
Well, yeah... It's got 80 more BHP, 4 wheel drive and will have different bodystyling........


Bit like an escort cossie in that respect
It looks very much the same as the ST to me. Yes more power and 4x4, but they cant just modify the ST underneath and stick an RS badge on it. I think they have to do something drastic with the body to make it worthy of the being an RS, instead of just a new and improved ST.

The said that though... I mean, ford wouldn't put it in it's RS clothes while they tested it as people would go "WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT!"

Most folk on the street would think "oh, some Star Trek fan has chavved up his ST...."


It will look fundamentally different to the mule you see here. Come Geneva, the Focus family gets much more than a facelift. Following on from the sleek and sexy new Mondeo, every Focus body panel bar the roof will be new, bringing it into line with Martin Smith’s 'kinetic design' body language. So while mechanical changes will be minimal, the refreshed Focus will look distinctly different to today’s model. It’s the same inside – the Focus gets an all new interior that again borrows heavily from the Mondeo with plenty of soft-touch and alloy-look plastics and considerably more design flair.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Can people on here not read? It says it wont look anything like the one in the pics

As said about Money this wont matter as it wont be that expensive as Steve pointed out. Plus it will have other benefits for the brand......
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well i'll believe it when I see it...
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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HAS to be 300horse
HAS to be 4x4
HAS to look proper tough, balls out styling.

Only way its going to compete with the latest evo's an scoobies in my opinion
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GTechR
well i'll believe it when I see it...
Exactly what I thought when I saw the title.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:06 PM
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would be very nice but i doubt it will happen................fingers crossed it does
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Coldo
HAS to be 300horse
HAS to be 4x4
HAS to look proper tough, balls out styling.

Only way its going to compete with the latest evo's an scoobies in my opinion
Doubt they will TBH, they will prob keep it milder to compete with the Mazda MPS etc which is a 2.3 (duratec ) turbo 4wd, but not as pure performance as the evo etc.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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Will be same panels as ST and just a kit to make integration into the production line easier/cheaper

Low volume specials are a thing of the past for ford, if they can make the RS fit on the production line with minumum disruption then we'll get it, development is well under way
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