if you wouldn't mind, and agree with the principle, please could you spare a couple of minutes to sign this petition to try and persuade the government to allow motorbikes to use bus lanes

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/bikesinbuslanes/

some places already allow this, Reading being one, and it works very well

it may also stop some accidents and incidents where bikers currently filter between lanes or up the middle of the road which can be both annoying and dangerous

 

Already signed

Would make the roads safer for us bikers - less filtering through queues of cars saves us time and is far far safer

 

But is filtering through cars illegal?

 

signed

i think we should go one step further and ban buses from bus lanes,, could be another useful lane

 

Nope

In central London, filtering is part of the bike test

 

They should ban cunts in taxi's from bus lanes

 

Why don't they just ban bus lanes

 

you can use em in bath and swindon too

 

Doubt it.... Bikers are second only to lorry drivers in thinking they own the fookin road.


Bikers are always down the inside or outside of traffic lanes, weaving in and out of cars eating into a drivers braking zone in a bid to get to the front.

They NEVER queue responsibly like the rest of the traffic.

So what is the point


Its educating bikers thats needed, not persuading the government to do anything because even if the government did do something and allowed them to use the bus lanes they would still weave all through the traffic the minute they came upon a bus in the bus lane to get ahead....


Tossas !!

 

neilm


Love you too

 

I agree with neilm, everyday I see bikers carve traffic up, then sit in the RIGHT turn lane only and go STRAIGHT on, cutting across the traffic on the left.
They are breaking the law anyway, so if they want to use bus lanes they most likely will before long anyway.
How many times do you have to move over becuse some prick on a bike comes around the corner either on your side of the road or next to the white line, but leant right over into the other side of the road.
YES I ride a bike also, but think bus lanes bad idea.
tabetha

 

you don't have to move over for bikers, and if you feel that they are riding irresponsibly or selfishly then don't but don't deliberately block them either

i agree that some are a nuisance and that training and education are needed - and not just for the bikers but for all road users

but what is the harm in a bike using the bus lane to get to the front of the queue rather than a more dangerous area of the road? you could argue that why should they get to the front anyway, but they do and that's life - accept it and don't get in a jealous rage about it. it's just one of the benefits of being on a bike in traffic. car drivers can have different benefits like listening to music, having heating/aircon, keeping dry, smoking etc.

in life, sometimes you're the pigeon, and sometimes you're the statue. car drivers in traffic queues are the statues getting shat on by the biker pigeons

 

I don't do road rage, and if they want to knock themselves out by leaning over into my side of the road round corners I don't mind so long as they pay for the damage if they get killed that 's just the way it is, I don't mind at all.
A safer area of the road, why should they, a right turn lane to go straight on is not safe, and plod do nothing about it either, I think filtering should be illegal, they go on the wrong side of the road to do this, or overtake you on the inside, have not read the highway code in a while but isn't this illegal ?
Music, heating, staying dry etc is a CHOICE that the BIKER makes, don't really think it a valid point is it, unless they are FORCED to ride a bike are they ?
I use a park and ride to get into the city, despite the fact I could park on double yellows a lot nearer.
I have nothing against bikers per se, I don't think TAXI's should be allowed to use them either, just another car at the end of the day, and a lot drive like idiots too.
tabetha

 

well, i got propper pissed on this morning, so fuck sitting in a traffic que when i can nip up the inside

ps i dont carve people up, use right hand turn lanes to go srtaight on, or corner with my head on the wrong side of the road...

but i wont sit in traffic either, thats the main reason i got a bike lol

 

why shuold bike riders have it any different to car drivers?
we have to wait, they have to wait
in town you are always on the look out for a helmeted loon riding about like there is nothing to worry about, only to watch them narrowly miss being splated by a lorry

bus lanes are for buses, so taxi driving cunts shouldn't be allowed to use them either, but thats w whole other rant for a whole different day, like friday when they just sit on the outside of the A4 going into town dawdling at 35 mph with no cunt in front of them or to the side, so enough of the overtaking fresh air bollocks i go up the inside, only for the taxi drivier to speed up and try and keep ahead of me
cunt
white van power is no match for taxi deaseal beltching fume wheezyness , but then again, i imagine a fair few of you hate white van man as well, but if it wern';t for coonting taxi drivers we wouldn't be in half as much of a hurry as we are

fuck it, have everyone else use the buss lane and the rest of the road should be resevred for drivers of deliveries vehicles only

 

Have to say I largely agree with neilm and Tabetha.

Don't have any grudge with them but too many bikers seem to just push into gaps which are too small and then will promptly complain when the driver says they didn't see them. Bikers and drivers need to be a little more aware of each other and a bit more corteous as well

 

i just asked if you'd sign the petition, not give us a load of grief

if bikes were allowed in the bus lane, there'd be no need for any of this grief. we'd just zip by up the inside and be gone out of your way (until the next left turn when a car turns across the bus lane without looking)

 

I can only see posatives for us using the bus lanes personally. If there were any negatives to it then fair enough but there isnt so it can only be a good thing for everyone surely?

I agree though there are a few inconsiderate bikers out there though, just like theres inconsiderate drivers. I overtake cars when on the bike of course, but i always aim to overtake without them having to change direction, brake or slow down etc, just like i do when im in the car.

I also dont see a problem with us going straight on in a right/left only lane, as long as the driver is unaffected by it. Yes it is illegal but 99% of bikes can get infront without causing anyone any problems.

 

here speaks a man who obviously has NO idea about lorry drivers!well done!im sorry but the majority of car drivers think THEY own the road and have NO idea of what it takes to get a huge vehicle along some of the queens highways.car drivers need more education IMO.

 

I agree, all road users need more education to learn what it takes to drive different types of vehicles, be it cars, lorries or bikes. The only gripe i have with lorry drivers is that many just pull out to overtake regardless of whats approaching them at speed. If i see them indicating ill either flash them out, change lanes or speed up to get past them quickly so they can get out in time. I understand it takes them ages to build up speed again if they brake but i think its so inconsiderate of them to make you change your speed or direction, and that goes for any vehicle for that matter.

And a bttt for the petition.

 

just what you need on a busy day, first your looking out for the bikers on the right of you as they weave in and out, now you have to look for them on the left aswell, not like you see em as easy like a bus either. Asking for trouble imo.

 

Agreed, I don't care how expensive driving gets, I'd never get on a bus. Dirty piss-smelling boxes the lot of 'em.

Anyway, I thought Bikes, taxis & Polish immigrants could use bus lanes already?

 

Ha ha, if you had a bike you'd understand!!

Mark

 

Because bike's can get into spaces and filter like a car cant, i mean if a car went down the wrong side of the road then tried to squeeze in at the front it would cause mayhem and make everyones journey longer where as a biker can do this without making anyone else journey longer a they just flow with the traffic

 

foreigneRS
if bikes were allowed in the bus lane, there'd be no need for any of this grief. we'd just zip by up the inside and be gone out of your way (until the next left turn when a car turns across the bus lane without looking)

Alps Pacino
Because bike's can get into spaces and filter like a car cant, i mean if a car went down the wrong side of the road then tried to squeeze in at the front it would cause mayhem and make everyones journey longer where as a biker can do this without making anyone else journey longer a they just flow with the traffic

i'd rather have bikes coming round the outside than trying to nip through gaps in teh traffic or coming down the inside in the bus lanes where they are in even more peril

 

if they were allowed in the bus lane, they would have no need to be on the right as well

there's no difference to the inside turning left, to the outside turning right

and it would be the bikers choice where to ride according to which would give the least risk

 

S1rst is it ok to break the law then so long as there are no accidents.
WHO do you blame when there is, the biker for acting illegally going straight on in a right turn lane or the DOZY FUCKER of a car driver for not knowing the biker was going straight on and being STUPID enough not to ASSUME he was ?
Ok I know the car driver was LAW ABIDING, and sticking to the rules drawn up for ALL of our safety, but this isn't the point is it, why don't we all pick which side of the road to drive on ?, as bikers often do!!
tabetha

 

I'm not sitting in reading this shit and drivvle from all you non bikers and bike haters when the sun is shining, I'm off out on my bike

 

Graceland

Amen to that i'm off out for a mega ride possibly lake district or scotland maybe

 

I wasnt actually saying i DO go straight on in right/left only lanes, i was simply saying i dont think it would cause any major issues as the bike could more often than not get in front whilst still being safe and no danger to other road users. However, im not saying i think that should be the law by any means. Most bikers will understand their in the wrong lane, so would take action appropriately, be it getting in front or waiting for a safe gap.

Of course if the bike was in the wrong lane then it would be there fault, just like if a car was in the wrong lane it would be the cars fault. If a cars speeding round a corner and it crashes, its their fault, more often than not. The unfortunate fact is that 90% of road users break the law when driving on a day to day basis at some stage, thats life, its upto the individual who breaks the law to decide whether it is worth the risk or not.

Ive noticed a large % of drivers are fine with bikes filtering and pulling upto the front of traffic lights to go first. Maybe these people are bikers themselves so understand why bikers do it. Its a perk of having a bike.

 

Me too, im off out in a bit i think. I may even overtake some cars too instead of queueing responsibly like everyone one else.

 

I've just come home, it started pissing it down up over saddleworth so only covered 50 poxy miles

 

Fook em! They can struggle on,just like the rest of us. Most of the bikers i see on the road don't give a flying fook about anyone else anyway,so why should we give a fook about them?

 

Graceland

Got some good miles in today 50 miles to newcastle then across the contry then back down then home, probably about 250 miles in total. Was fucking windy though got blow all over and wasnt exactly warm either. O well i'm off to holland working for 6 weeks on monday so by the time i get back the summer will be over no doubt and the bike away for another winter

 

i bashed a biker yesterday in the van
he was coming towards me on my side of the road, there was a gap which he shuld have pulled into
he didn't
wing mirror + bikers bonce = biker into side of car

i did stop but by that time the biker was rowing with the car driver who's motor he'd just trashed the side of in his big heavy bike

so who's in the wrong there then? and don't say me

but they all seem to be arrogant cunts who ride on the wrong side of the road and then expect you to move out of the way for them

and i'm not counting moped fiding imbeciles in with motorbike riders, thats w whole different kettle of potatoes

 

i have little sympathy for the biker in that kind of case. if you don't have room to filter without expecting others to move, you shouldn't be doing it

it's a bonus if people see you coming from either behind them or towards them and move over for you, for which i will always thank them

the question is dojj, why didn't you just move over and give him a bit of room? if you were in your own car and not a works van, would you have done? if you didn't have room, then fair enough, but if it's just bloody mindedness to teach him a lesson, then well done

 

Why the hell should everyone other than bikers move over for them ?
A lot let power go to their heads and think they are some kind of TT ace, and ride as though on the TT.
The last bike that bike I picked up and stored in my garage awaitings it's owners return from hospital after crashing on my street, said he was doing 20mph, odd as his R1 was in 3rd gear!!.
I would not move over for a biker to let him ovetake coming towards me, why should I, I don't for cars but do for bikers who are a SENSIBLE distance behind me and want to get past, I indicate and move over when I can, the difference being they are CONSIDERATE, most 95% wave to say thanks.
It really pisses car drivers off when you some retard on a bike overtaking slowly forcimng other people to take evasive action because they do not have the intellect to change down, when they could so easily be past in a few safe seconds.
Mind you not as good as the ones who tear about with no lights on, they are hard to see especially at speed, fortunately most are sensible in this respect.
I do ride bikes myself, so not a biker hater.
tabetha

 

that's a bit of a rant

there is no reason why anyone should move over for an overtaking bike except consideration and kindness - things that are sadly very lacking on the roads and in much of society these days

if you don't want to, then don't. be happy being selfish