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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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they do go well dont they..

Basically a while ago I asked some questions, on what to look out for when buyiny one.. Cant find the post..

Can anyone tell me what things to check etc.. please?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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Rhys might be you man as he recently got his and bet he asked similar Q's. Do a quick search of his posts.

Make sure its not black as most fucking are
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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cheers Chopster...

and it is black.. wouldnt have it any other way too many silver ones about.. now they are common..
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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brakes and tyres are two obvious things to check on most cars, but my mates type r does seem to get through them quicker than most cars. and apparently service history is a must.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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cheers Fiddy..

new tyres
new brakes
and full Honda Service History...

I think its a little over priced tho but the extra is worth the Honda warrenty I guess..

I need to ask the question whether the warenty is both parts and labour, or just parts..? heard you can get stung abit on this,,
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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They drink petrol too
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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shit, just typed half a page out and crashed, oh well, here it is...

Look out for

Tyre wear, the rear camber can not be adjusted and they eat the rears, you can buy an aftermarket kit which will allow you to adjust them.

They can drink oil so weekly checks are a must.

check 2nd gear and reverse, can be iffy on some and will need an overhaul

Make sure it has a full service history by honda

alloys can suffer from pitting and can also be easily kurbed

look out for imports being passed off as uk cars

steering racks can fail - think they are noisy if going

suspension can be very sqeeky

stone chipping on the front end

dents on the sides, big flat doors with no protection so car park dents are likely

make sure the vtec kicks in well, 20mph in 2nd then put you foot FLAT to the floor and just over 6k you should feel the kick and hear the engine note change.

Do not rag from from cold, let it warm up - they have a very high tick over from cold and will last a minute before dropping down.

They are almost silent when warmed up tciking over. Mine is so quiet i have tried to start it whilst it is running more than once

These cars do have a high turn over of owners, I would not be put be put off if there is a good service record.

This is likely due to the fact that you have to drive them hard to get the most out of them, i sometimes find that although I love the civic, the additional insurance and fuel consumption is not justified by the performance. It isn't often you can really open these up in day to day use so the performance is no different to a 2.0l car.

But the ride is comfortable, the seats are ace, and the gear position once used to it is cracking and it's feels boring going back to a normal car. Get that lump up in the top end of the revs and get it threw the gears and it can be a quality motor.

Buy one at a good price as you may want to ,move on in a year and the new model is pushing prices down.

Get on to the civic type r owners site, it's a must
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oh, mine does 180miles to 30 quid
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many thanks for the reply

to be honest most if not all the items you have listed, it passes

alloys are scrapped, but he said they will refurb them all for me. its done 57k, 2 owners and FHSH..

just gonna check the insurance as I think they are a group 17
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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my insurance wasn't bad really, and was even cheaper when I stuck the misses on
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 05:32 PM
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AS said they drink fuel! Mine might be up for sale soon as might be getting a job which is 60mile round trip a day so wont be able to justify it.

But most everything is covered above. How old is it?
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Only thing i like about Civic Type R's are; 1) gear lever position is class & 2) when supercharged they go like stink!!! Standard i think there would be piss poor and very boring without v-tec!
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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and then don't leave your keys in the kitchen cos my mate had her kitchen window put through for the keys to theirs.... they had had it 17 days and it was brand new! Never seen it since!
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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http://www.civictype-r.co.uk/forum/ for site.
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thanks

Rhys - its a 2002 one, with aBOUT 55K ON THE CLOCK i THINK..

2 previous owners and full history..

Got a few questions I need to ask the bloke tomorrow, but from what I have read, they seem a decent car..

Fuel - hopefully wont be too much of an issue as I commute to work by train, therefore do about 300 miles a month roughly...

only downful is leaving it in a carpark all day, but there are other type r;s there, also, I may ened up leaving it at a safer car park if need be
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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I reckon they look best in the metallic grey or black, as i think they look shite in red and silver.

Can you not get white ones over here?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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i bought my missus one two months and i think its a great car, maybe not as quick as i thought but it handles brilliantly well chuffed with it
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you can get white ones but only as imports JDM , they white ones come with red interior, more power and LSD
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normal unleaded I take it?

also, do they have cat 1 alarm as standard?

guess I will ask tomorrow, but be nice to know none the less
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Originally Posted by Diseasel
you can get white ones but only as imports JDM , they white ones come with red interior, more power and LSD
My mate has a UK car (from dixon honda) in red, with red interior. i thought the red interior was standard??

Fucking horrible though, red interior..urghh, looks like a pimps wet dream
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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i like the old integras my self,,,, import with the normal headlamps

no help to you though westy,,,, but then when am i a help
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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yeah the integras are ok, just not my preference...

and true, no help as usual..
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westy the gearbox is on the wrong side,,, if that helps
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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
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you can get white ones but only as imports JDM , they white ones come with red interior, more power and LSD
My mate has a UK car (from dixon honda) in red, with red interior. i thought the red interior was standard??

Fucking horrible though, red interior..urghh, looks like a pimps wet dream
The Jap ones are championship white only with LSD recaro seats hid lights

They did build vivid blue one ones but not many they look very good imo also the cosmic grey ones STAY AWAY FROM RED !!!!!!

PS the new one is slower cos i driven them all
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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
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you can get white ones but only as imports JDM , they white ones come with red interior, more power and LSD
My mate has a UK car (from dixon honda) in red, with red interior. i thought the red interior was standard??

Fucking horrible though, red interior..urghh, looks like a pimps wet dream
If its the pre facelift and has tinted rear windows its probably the anniversary edition.

Fooking loved my CTR had it lowered with 18" wheels , magnex exhaust and a CAI , looked , went and sounded the baws

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Originally Posted by Diseasel
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you can get white ones but only as imports JDM , they white ones come with red interior, more power and LSD
My mate has a UK car (from dixon honda) in red, with red interior. i thought the red interior was standard??

Fucking horrible though, red interior..urghh, looks like a pimps wet dream
If its the pre facelift and has tinted rear windows its probably the anniversary edition.

Fooking loved my CTR had it lowered with 18" wheels , magnex exhaust and a CAI , looked , went and sounded the baws
YES the late ann ones had recaros and tinted glass BUT no lsd
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is a 2002 model a pre face lift? im lost

they have the new shape out with the wierd exhausts.. not keen, then i assume the previous model would have been as per the pic above, so a 2002 will the previous model?

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The one i've been out in is a 54 plate.

Facelift was slightly more powerful IIRC, original one was 197bhp, newer one was 202bhp

Front lights are the only thing that stands out for me with regards to other differences, but tbh i havent looked that closely

They don't have fog lights and AC as standard. For 17k i'd be fucking pissed off at that. Even though i don't use my front fogs out of principle, but cars look bare without them
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no the face lift has red/orange rear lamps i think its been a while as were building the new one
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two different older versions mate, facelift ones have different addtions, ie front/rear lights, indicators in wing mirrors, new additional colour, cosmic grey, red/black front seats, lighter flywheel, better wheel geometry
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Yeah i think original was only in silver, black or manky red
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get a integra type r
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Originally Posted by aduz
get a integra type r
what he said!

CTR's are usually driven by fat spotty web designers
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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dont like the integra tbh..

Billy - one Im not fat, 2 im not spotty, and 3 I dont design websites.. job done, What do you drive
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Westy lot of wrong info floating about here pmsl.....

2 owner is good on car like that mate, of that age. AS said 2002 is pre face lift. Just check it out as generally bullet proof. Only reason i ask on age to see if still had warrenty etc.

As said if you only do 300 miles a month i wouldnt worry about fuel etc. They are good complete cars, not overly quick but then you dont expect that, just a fun car.

Just make sure its straight and not been in bump, but im sure you would anyway
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:27 AM
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If you're gonna spend that money get a little more for your money:



Proper car.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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There a fair bit more money though. People always make me laugh ask for info on one and peeps say get another


Plus they are more expensive to insure as Jap import Are nice though, nearly got one myself but couldnt be arsed as wanted warrenty and not mess about with silly insurance.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Does anyone know what sort of torque they produce?
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my old boss had one on a 2002, had a £500 ex system from cat back...got stung me thinks...and it sounded fooking terrible..
like a corsa with cherry bomb..

i used to drive that now and again, and didnt find it overwhelming
drove real nice and felt new....but it should as it was only 1 year old at the time

not massively impressed with it
but still nice to drive


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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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to be fair.. Ive been scowering this site plus others for a nice example S1 RST.. as for some reason Ive always wanted one..

then I thought, why would I want to go back to owning an old car again.. I never really had any issues with the RS but I cant be fucked with it all anymore.. to much hassle for me.. just little things that always seem to need doing..

and on the plus side, I doubt I'll be on here as much whichj is a bonus to some
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