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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:23 PM
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Was on the way to work in the escort cos when an e46 m3 wanted to play.Could not get past it i did not realise how quick they are ,any one had a go at one.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:25 PM
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theyre 300+bhp what did you expect

everyone seems to think m3s are really slow, i'll never understand that.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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No i knew it would be rapid but i have not seen one driven like this,they are 343 bhp and i just looker you can get it remaped and have another 30 bhp.What a car that would be.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:29 PM
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Was on the way to work in the escort cos when an e46 m3 wanted to play.Could not get past it i did not realise how quick they are ,any one had a go at one.
I had my arse kicked by one the other day
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no lag either,

and they go round cornrs
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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had a play with one before left it standing
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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and they dont break as often as a cossie either


its just a better car in every way, unless you happen to have some mental illness that makes you like shit old fords
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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I've had goes with a couple of em and they got done, I had a go with an e 36 on a p or r reg around egham and he fared better than his big brothers and was on my daily, only went past me when I braked for a roundabout, he didn't and nearly had a fender bender with another road user


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dont compare the 36 to the 46, the 46 is a FAR better car.

not much quicker in a straight line mind, they do weigh a fair bit more
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:38 PM
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Had a go against one in my old Mexico and murdered it
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?


I've beaten a few E46's
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:42 PM
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my dads got a 55 plate that he bought new, ive raced him and flashed him out the way on the bypass, still rather have his car though
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?
I was comparing my cossie powered Mexico that doubled in value to an M3 that probably halfed in value in the same time
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aj, did you flash em out of the way in yout old cabby?
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fastefords, look at E30 prices, let's at least compare similar decades of cars please
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?

It was a sierra that absouloutely dominated the BTCC back in the late 80's early 90's, not bad for a car that was mildly good in its day


I think its past your bedtime mate sounds like you're tired


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dominated the BTCC?

was that until the E30 M3 came along yeah?

anyway if we're talking about race cars we have to include the M3 GTR and thats 100% road legal
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Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?
no



he was on about an escort............so even worse than a sierra
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The E46 is a work of art, the new one is a work of arse.
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally

was that until the E30 M3 came along yeah?


Bag of fucking shite


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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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thing is i still don't like the look of the E46 M3.

i've learnt to appreciate it, and i want one, but it doesn't really do it for me looks wise. i think it's because i'm more a fan of square/boxy cars, i really like the looks of the E36 even tho theyre dated now
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
thing is i still don't like the look of the E46 M3.
looks (and goes) better than yours jimbo
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 11:03 PM
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does it have a heated front screen ..NO

i rest my case
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
and they dont break as often as a cossie either


its just a better car in every way, unless you happen to have some mental illness that makes you like shit old fords
tell that to butch
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Originally Posted by Jim Galbally

was that until the E30 M3 came along yeah?


Bag of fucking shite


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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?

It was a sierra that absouloutely dominated the BTCC back in the late 80's early 90's, not bad for a car that was mildly good in its day


I think its past your bedtime mate sounds like you're tired


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What gave it away, his head dipped forward as it got heavy and his blinkers fell off?
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
everyone seems to think m3s are really slow
they are
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Originally Posted by aduz
Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
everyone seems to think m3s are really slow
they are


and to quote Jeramy Clarkson, " tend to be driven by tossers"
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Originally Posted by charlie luciano
Originally Posted by Flip2k3
Are people still comparing a dated sierra that was mildly good in its day to a perfomance coupe?

It was a sierra that absouloutely dominated the BTCC back in the late 80's early 90's, not bad for a car that was mildly good in its day


I think its past your bedtime mate sounds like you're tired


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my escort cossy deals with m3 all day long
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1. E46 M3s are claimed from the factory to be 343PS (338bhp).
2. They never make that power (usually 325bhp).
3. Chipping may gain the "lost" ponies, but no way will it gain 30bhp .
4. CSLs are even worse - claimed 360PS (355bhp) and the true power out puts of these vary horrendously. A friend has one and only makes 355bhp AFTER being chipped .
5. As standard they understeer as bad as a Cossie when pushed hard (so all the "great" handling bollocks is just that ). They are "good", NOT "great". It takes just as much money to make them "great" as it does a Cossie (the understeer is designed to protect "normal" drivers from themselves ) .
6. They are just as unreliable as Cossies, and no-one in their right mind would buy one without a BMW warranty, as the VANOS can give HUGE COSTLY problems, as can the SMG gearboxes (after so many launches, the explode and the launches are all data-logged and if you have done more than 20, it invalidates the warranty and then the replacement box is down to you - £8k )

All of the above makes it worse that your arse was handed to you .

Would I have one? Yes - but spare me the rose-tinted BMW shit please .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
1. E46 M3s are claimed from the factory to be 343PS (338bhp).
2. They never make that power (usually 325bhp).
3. Chipping may gain the "lost" ponies, but no way will it gain 30bhp .
4. CSLs are even worse - claimed 360PS (355bhp) and the true power out puts of these vary horrendously. A friend has one and only makes 355bhp AFTER being chipped .
5. As standard they understeer as bad as a Cossie when pushed hard (so all the "great" handling bollocks is just that ). They are "good", NOT "great". It takes just as much money to make them "great" as it does a Cossie (the understeer is designed to protect "normal" drivers from themselves ) .
6. They are just as unreliable as Cossies, and no-one in their right mind would buy one without a BMW warranty, as the VANOS can give HUGE COSTLY problems, as can the SMG gearboxes (after so many launches, the explode and the launches are all data-logged and if you have done more than 20, it invalidates the warranty and then the replacement box is down to you - £8k )

All of the above makes it worse that your arse was handed to you .

Would I have one? Yes - but spare me the rose-tinted BMW shit please .
You dont half have a way with words Mike

Datalogging standing starts sounds a bit worrying
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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E46 M3 Evo doesn't impress me drove my mate and it seemed nowt special especially so as i'm use to driving the E30 Cosworth which absolutely wiped the floor of it
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BMW = tosspot driver with no considreration for other road users. Hence they are unloved by other road users.

Just an observation from lots of driving particularly on motorways.
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BMW = tosspot driver with no considreration for other road users. Hence they are unloved by other road users.

Just an observation from lots of driving particularly on motorways.
espeially when you're doing 90+ on the outside lane, with 2 other lanes full....they still deem it necessary to drive about 2 inches away from your back bumper
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Now who else could put that across like Mike just did and not be shot down to fuck by every "know" it all?
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Chop,
Because this information isn't gleaned from t'internet, it is REAL world experience .

This is a PROPERLY sorted M3 - it took the best part of £7k to get it to this level though - engine is COMPLETELY standard still as well (at the moment ).



A beautifully balanced car, but a million miles away from a standard one (notice the rather hansome driver ) .
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Yeah mike but you know most others would get shot down whether its correct or not

Wattys car was fantastic at the ring
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a mate of a mate has an e46 m3 evo ,we had a play from 20mph out of a round about i was about 4 car lenths ahead @ 130mph but at 150 i was only about 1 cars lenth,i had 3 people in the fezz [230bhp] one of witch was in the back with no seats holding on to the cage for his life
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