Which version of vista to get?
Basically im on xp home right now, it does me fine but i like to have all the new stuff so which version should i go for? is there THAT much difference between the 2 entry level packages?
All i do is surf the net, use msn and play games(new games like fear, battlefield 2142 etc) so i dont need any executive tools etc
All i do is surf the net, use msn and play games(new games like fear, battlefield 2142 etc) so i dont need any executive tools etc
I'd probably go for Home Premium, has Aero and seems to do everything inc Media Centre if you'll use that.
Business seems OK, has Aero, no media centre, but better backup facilities.
Or Ultimate, best of both worlds and not that much more expensive than Home Premium/Business.
The question is though, if your PC supports 64bit hardware wise, do you go for Vista 32 or 64?
Business seems OK, has Aero, no media centre, but better backup facilities.
Or Ultimate, best of both worlds and not that much more expensive than Home Premium/Business.
The question is though, if your PC supports 64bit hardware wise, do you go for Vista 32 or 64?
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Originally Posted by FastFordChris
apparently battlefield wont play properly or at all on vista at the moment i've been told.
And ive got a AMD x2 4200, 2 gigs of ram, 7950GT 512mb graphics card so ive got no problems running vista
Seems like home premium would do me then
For the people saying nothing runs on it, do abit of research, it actually doesnt seem that bad now
Originally Posted by roybacer
Originally Posted by Flip2k3
I've heard nigh on 4GB RAM to run the cunt.. No thanks..
Runs perfectly well on 1 gig, 512mb gets you by.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...uirements.mspx
Considering that this is the same company that believes Windows XP only requires a 233 mhz processor and 64mb of memory it would be fair to say that Vista runs like a three legged dog on its minimum system requirements...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314865
I have 4gb of memory on my Vista box and it runs like a dog compared to the way other operating systems would with this amount of memory available. Vista does nothing new and provides nothing new other than a shiney new set of clothes, when pushed hard with database or large applications such as video editing Vista groans under the strain... its not worth getting
Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
Originally Posted by roybacer
Originally Posted by Flip2k3
I've heard nigh on 4GB RAM to run the cunt.. No thanks..
Runs perfectly well on 1 gig, 512mb gets you by.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...uirements.mspx
Considering that this is the same company that believes Windows XP only requires a 233 mhz processor and 64mb of memory it would be fair to say that Vista runs like a three legged dog on its minimum system requirements...
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314865
I have 4gb of memory on my Vista box and it runs like a dog compared to the way other operating systems would with this amount of memory available. Vista does nothing new and provides nothing new other than a shiney new set of clothes, when pushed hard with database or large applications such as video editing Vista groans under the strain... its not worth getting
Originally Posted by Hannah
yeah be warned not alot of things will run on it.... i.e. itunes but apparently all will be fixed in a couple of months. Maybe hang on till then......
Had it running on 512mb DDR 333 with an AMD AthlonXP 2600+ (running @ 2300mhz - equivalent of 3200+) and it was usable. have now upgraded to 1gb and it's sweet as a nut. 4gb my arse
You can run a 50 user SBS server on 4gb quite easily FFS
Originally Posted by mark rs
is there any cracked working versions
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Even though the boxes have now been changed people are still doing this with PC's on display in stores and its apprently causing legitimate consumers and Microsoft a lot of problems.
If you want the OS you should buy it or use a free alternative if you do not wish to pay.
Originally Posted by UnseenMenace
Originally Posted by mark rs
is there any cracked working versions
mark
mark
Even though the boxes have now been changed people are still doing this with PC's on display in stores and its apprently causing legitimate consumers and Microsoft a lot of problems.
If you want the OS you should buy it or use a free alternative if you do not wish to pay.
NOTE: i did find a bug today, adobe seem to know all about it but havent been arsed to fix it. when installing Adobe Reader 8.0 from the installer package, it falls over failing to write to temp file. I went through and reset all my security, owndership etc, turned off mcafee and access protection etc etc still no good. had a quick google and adobe say you need to run the installer package bootstrapper in windows XP SP2 compatibility mode
worked like a charm after that
will AVG antivirus and zonealarm work on vista? also does anyone know if my usb modem software will work ok?(its a speedtouch modem from orange) i did ring and ask but the women on the other end didnt have a clue what i was on about
Originally Posted by GTi_iTG
will AVG antivirus and zonealarm work on vista? also does anyone know if my usb modem software will work ok?(its a speedtouch modem from orange) i did ring and ask but the women on the other end didnt have a clue what i was on about


The main problems i'm having with vista are the software accounting packages that our customers run, sage, pegasus opera, SAP etc. They all seem to use a PDF printer/creator to generate the documents (invoices, sales orders, purchase orders etc), and the PDF printer it uses is the amyuni document creator, which used a kernel mode driver....which vista doesnt work with. Server 2003 used to have problems with them but it was nothing a group policy couldnt fix, but on vista it doesnt work full stop, no amount of fudging will make it work, as it only allows the use of user mode drivers. So for now Vista PCs and laptops are on hold if they want to run sage/opera. Sage Line 200/500 works ok though as it doesnt use a PDF printer as it is sql based and the docs are held in there. MMS doesnt work though
No VPN software we use works either, neither safenet softremote of sonicwall globalvpn have a vista compatible release yet (Safenet - June, Sonicwall - christ knows)
Still got it on my home PC and my work laptop without any major problems, but then again i dont run any of that shite anyway
To be honest i dont know what everyone is getting so worked up about, when XP came out fuck all worked on that so it's just same old story.
If microsoft wrote an OS that meant every single piece of third party software ran on it no matter how flaky then they'd still be working on a final release of windows 95
Rick It's only the installer you have to run in WXP SP2 mode, the program itself runs fine without any fiddling
It was installing from the downloaded .exe package, whereas the pro version i assume will be on CD and wont need to use the compressed .exe. It probably uses some sort of linux bootstrapper that vista tries to block. Even setting owner and permissions on entire C drive to 'wide open' (inherited all the way down) it wouldnt work
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by GTi_iTG
will AVG antivirus and zonealarm work on vista? also does anyone know if my usb modem software will work ok?(its a speedtouch modem from orange) i did ring and ask but the women on the other end didnt have a clue what i was on about


The main problems i'm having with vista are the software accounting packages that our customers run, sage, pegasus opera, SAP etc. They all seem to use a PDF printer/creator to generate the documents (invoices, sales orders, purchase orders etc), and the PDF printer it uses is the amyuni document creator, which used a kernel mode driver....which vista doesnt work with. Server 2003 used to have problems with them but it was nothing a group policy couldnt fix, but on vista it doesnt work full stop, no amount of fudging will make it work, as it only allows the use of user mode drivers. So for now Vista PCs and laptops are on hold if they want to run sage/opera. Sage Line 200/500 works ok though as it doesnt use a PDF printer as it is sql based and the docs are held in there. MMS doesnt work though
No VPN software we use works either, neither safenet softremote of sonicwall globalvpn have a vista compatible release yet (Safenet - June, Sonicwall - christ knows)
Still got it on my home PC and my work laptop without any major problems, but then again i dont run any of that shite anyway
To be honest i dont know what everyone is getting so worked up about, when XP came out fuck all worked on that so it's just same old story.
If microsoft wrote an OS that meant every single piece of third party software ran on it no matter how flaky then they'd still be working on a final release of windows 95
Rick It's only the installer you have to run in WXP SP2 mode, the program itself runs fine without any fiddling
It probably uses some sort of linux bootstrapper that vista tries to block. Even setting owner and permissions on entire C drive to 'wide open' (inherited all the way down) it wouldnt work 
Originally Posted by aduz
keep xp mate i had a go on vista today for the first time and i wasnt impressed to be honest...
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by aduz
keep xp mate i had a go on vista today for the first time and i wasnt impressed to be honest...
Test Drive Unlimied run's like a dream on it, much better then XP Pro
Avg anti spyware is not compatible yet
Dunno about zonealarm, not used it for years
Can't seem to be able to install the nero image drive function
Battlefield 2 will not run
Takes roughly 5 - 7 attempts to run a singleplayer map, not tried online yet.
No tried any other games like Vice City, or Quake 3 yet, too busy on TDU
Avg anti spyware is not compatible yet
Dunno about zonealarm, not used it for years
Battlefield 2 will not run
Takes roughly 5 - 7 attempts to run a singleplayer map, not tried online yet.
No tried any other games like Vice City, or Quake 3 yet, too busy on TDU
1gb ram with a old p4 2.8ht, raedon 9550 agp card. Runs all singing all dancing without any problems, in fact after switching back to xp id say xp feels far more bloated.
My only gripe is the total lack of any driver support for sound out of the box.
My only gripe is the total lack of any driver support for sound out of the box.
Originally Posted by GTi_iTG
will AVG antivirus and zonealarm work on vista? also does anyone know if my usb modem software will work ok?(its a speedtouch modem from orange) i did ring and ask but the women on the other end didnt have a clue what i was on about


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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by Hannah
yeah be warned not alot of things will run on it.... i.e. itunes but apparently all will be fixed in a couple of months. Maybe hang on till then......
Originally Posted by Hannah
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by Hannah
yeah be warned not alot of things will run on it.... i.e. itunes but apparently all will be fixed in a couple of months. Maybe hang on till then......
I'd say first of all to get the latest graphics driver for your machine from ATI/Nvidia/Intel and install that. Both ATI and NVidia now do decent Vista drivers. The native Vista plug and play drivers are absolute SHITE
Running Itunes 7.0 here with no problems on an ATI 128mb 9600XT card here thats getting close to 3 years old
for anyone wondering about what games run on vista take a look at this guys videos on youtube http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=maxishine hes tested like 10 different top pc games and done little vids of them all 
Hes got a killer pc aswell

Hes got a killer pc aswell
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Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by Hannah
Originally Posted by BigMouthBillyBass
Originally Posted by Hannah
yeah be warned not alot of things will run on it.... i.e. itunes but apparently all will be fixed in a couple of months. Maybe hang on till then......
I'd say first of all to get the latest graphics driver for your machine from ATI/Nvidia/Intel and install that. Both ATI and NVidia now do decent Vista drivers. The native Vista plug and play drivers are absolute SHITE
Running Itunes 7.0 here with no problems on an ATI 128mb 9600XT card here thats getting close to 3 years old
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