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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Good bye Turbo Systems Hello TSM. Will they still complain considering those are my initials
As you may have noticed certain key cosworth companies have had to change their user names.On the one hand I can appreciate the views of traders on here that pay the £200 anual fee to trade on this site.
Personaly I do not trade on here or make any attempt to sell ford RS parts on here.
The reason I come on here is that I am an ethusiast and often post piss takes or corrections to incorrect advise/information given by non experts.

I do think it is wrong that no matter how well intentioned wrong information is sometimes given this could turn out costly to the RS owner

I have also Noticed that some user names imply they are companies purely by their choice of user name when infact they are shelf stackers at tescos and their entusasm certainly out weighs their technical knowledge.
Surely this area should be attended to also more urgently than the need to please the moaners.

I suggest that certain users with The RS knowledge who are not traders on this board should be Identified as techies.I also think that a bonified well established company would be VAT registerd and that only these should be classed as Companies this would eliminate rogue trading

What do you all think
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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£200

do you have to pay to use other websites??
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:12 PM
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I reckon you should use Tony Mannock as your username, lots of people know who you are.

Or Stig of the Dump



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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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i agree that your technical input should be valued.

it's a shame that karl norris does not come on often anymore as he used to post up some interesting tech stuff
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Change your name by deed poll to

"Turbo systems, for all your cosworth requirements" and then sign up with that name and claim its just cause its your name
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If people like yourself are discouraged from posting after this latest change it will be a big loss to the paying site users, even if its somehow of benefit to the other businesses on here.
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Thats what i said, need a surname like "Buymycossiebits" or "Ybtuninggod"

My surnames Neophytou, so why cant you have a strange Surname too?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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Stavros, do you hang around steet racing venus saying "my names steve, ive got a surname too but I cant pronounce it" ?
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i think the more well known ford tuners and specialists that use
this site the better
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
i think the more well known ford tuners and specialists that use
this site the better

Indeed, the way I view it Tony is providing a free service on here that FAR outweighs the free advertising he gets from it.

I really dont see how this change is in the interests of normal forum users, its a shame that PF has trade advertisers at all IMHO, im sure it must be possible to make a go of it from a financial point of view with just user contributions?
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I also think that a bonified well established company would be VAT registerd and that only these should be classed as Companies this would eliminate rogue trading

What do you all think
Why only V.A.T. registered co's? There's some that are VAT registered, but far from bona fide, one of whom was banned I believe. A company is a company, Stu already asks that payment is made by a company cheque.
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
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If people like yourself are discouraged from posting after this latest change it will be a big loss to the paying site users, even if its somehow of benefit to the other businesses on here.
it is in no way aimed at any one individual on here, we are trying to make passionford move forwards. unfortunatly one of the ways is to possibly upset some of the longer established members on here.
we are trying to remove the bedroom traders who actually undercut the registered traders on here.


Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
im sure it must be possible to make a go of it from a financial point of view with just user contributions?
this topic has been done to death a few times before chip, the level of gold members does not come anywhere close to fund the site.


Originally Posted by cozzfather
i think the more well known ford tuners and specialists that use
this site the better
again we agree with this and are trying to get more tuners/traders but they are sometimes discouraged by the fact for £20 you can sell any thing you want.

Should Passionford be totally free for everyone?
in which case who should pay for the hosting fee's etc.. do you want adverts inbetween posts on threads as some other sites choose to do?
would you prefer a trade user base that you know you can buy from with confidence rather than any one who pm's you with a nice bargain only to find you have been scammed later on?
As moderators its hard for us to sit there and see this happen to users who lets be honest trust the person they are buying from, then try and get some form of comeback later.

The people that offer the technical advice on here are in no way being targeted as a site we need to try and remove the people stopping traders from advertising and this is one of the complaints we have had in the past.

I for one am always open to suggestions and ideas on how the site can be improved...
so please feel free to pm me or post here any ideas you may have .
its our community and in such we should try and work together to make it move forward.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:46 PM
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....my name was not even my company name.

..still it dont matter and beleive if you complain you have an agenda ...People who take notice of people on a website and not there real life tuner shouldnt own a Cossie IMO.

This site if for gaining knowledge and advice but as you can clearly see you get many different answers here so not really the best place to ask a serious question..LOL
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Originally Posted by Imatrukahs
still it dont matter and beleive if you complain you have an agenda
not at all phil ... next you will say you are being singled out and victimised
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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..i am referring to the non paying traders complaining
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Originally Posted by Imatrukahs
..i am referring to the non paying traders complaining
like you then
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 02:54 PM
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i can think of loads of usernames with company names/initials in them...will these all be changed too?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
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If people like yourself are discouraged from posting after this latest change it will be a big loss to the paying site users, even if its somehow of benefit to the other businesses on here.
it is in no way aimed at any one individual on here, we are trying to make passionford move forwards.
Forwards in what respect?


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unfortunatly one of the ways is to possibly upset some of the longer established members on here.
we are trying to remove the bedroom traders who actually undercut the registered traders on here.
Is that in the members best interests? I find it useful being able to buy parts from bedroom traders personally TBH and im sure many other users do.

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im sure it must be possible to make a go of it from a financial point of view with just user contributions?
this topic has been done to death a few times before chip, the level of gold members does not come anywhere close to fund the site.
Define not close?
What are the hosting costs?
I find it hard to believe this site cant run at a PROFIT off just the members contributions personally, hosting is very cheap these days if you look in the right places. If this site currently needs trader fees on top of the user payments then IMHO the admins owe it to the paid up members to look into alternatives to better use thier money, unless PF is run for financial gains by the admin of course, which I have no problem with providing its stated as such.



Originally Posted by cozzfather
i think the more well known ford tuners and specialists that use
this site the better
again we agree with this and are trying to get more tuners/traders but they are sometimes discouraged by the fact for £20 you can sell any thing you want.
Tony is a great example of a company representative who has little to gain on here by paying 200 quid+ but we as a site have everything to lose by alienating the likes of him.

I hope the forced namechange doesnt put him off helping people here, that would be tragic IMHO
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Seriously ?

Youve had to change from Turbosystems to TSM because someone didnt like it

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...who the fuck cares who posts here? ..This place will be made all the better by this change to get shot of free loaders...no offence to Tony at all,but you cant put people on a pedestal they are not above paying..hell most of the whingers are not even gold members!


...and why isnt this in the politics room?
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Originally Posted by Deano
Seriously ?

Youve had to change from Turbosystems to TSM because someone didnt like it

Christ on a bike
And yet the username "streetandtrackgraphics" is allowed to remain at the moment

Have to question the logic of how the offending names are chosen!
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chip ..
why should registered traders pay and others not...
everyone is after the best value for money reagrding parts, no one has denied that.... but if we had more traders then gold membership could possibly be reduced one way of moving passionford forwards then ...

i can not give you the exact costs involved as to be honest it has fook all to do with me .. but i will leave that to stu and pet to answer ..

as for all the other trade usernames that exist at this present moment in time i am so sorry for not the moderating team changing them all instantly,
the users are being pm'd and asked what name they would like to use rather than having something just pushed upon them...
no one is being singled out this is aimed at all trade based user names

its not in the politics room phil as i think this is actually going in a way that is productive .. however no doubt that will change at some point and phil i do agree with your feelings .. god i must be ill....

and if you want to find all the trade names chip then hey that saves us alot of time...
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So Phil will no longer be able to use " Boschman " I pressume

As he isnt recognised as a paying Trader ?

So what about peoples signatures that advertise their chosen tuners , must they also pay a fee too

Bizarre to say the least especially as Tony has had that name since the site opened and not once in 4 years has it ever been mentioned before

Way to go PF ............. SCORE !
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Originally Posted by Deano
So what about peoples signatures that advertise their chosen tuners , must they also pay a fee too
That is FAR more of an advert than just a username IMHO
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Originally Posted by Eagle
chip ..
why should registered traders pay and others not...
everyone is after the best value for money reagrding parts, no one has denied that.... but if we had more traders then gold membership could possibly be reduced one way of moving passionford forwards then ...
Ive been quite happy to pay the 20 quid just for advice, I would MUCH sooner pay 30 or 40 quid and have no traders to have to pander to personally.
(that reminds me, I must sign up again with my new account as my previous paid up account got deleted and im sure it must have been due for renewal by now)
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So Phil will no longer be able to use " Boschman " I pressume

As he isnt recognised as a paying Trader ?

So what about peoples signatures that advertise their chosen tuners , must they also pay a fee too

Bizarre to say the least especially as Tony has had that name since the site opened and not once in 4 years has it ever been mentioned before

Way to go PF ............. SCORE !
correct about phil .. he was more than obliging about it

the sig advertising is limited to the fact that if it is in a trade named user pointing to a way that they make money then it is removed...

the reason it has never been an issue before is its just started to happen ..

i just can not understand why people think certain users are being singled out
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i agree actually...but if they start telling us what we can and can't have in sigs then i'll fook off...

will the likes of;

madevelopments
Genesis Engineering
PROX (?)

and a few others have to be changed too?

seems like this site is trying to copy others....wrong way to go imo but hey that's life!!
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and if you want to find all the trade names chip then hey that saves us alot of time...
I will PM you with any others that I spot mate, but I would be neglecting the forum I moderate if I spent hours and hours trawling through the list of usernames on here instead of one of this forums mods doing it TBH.
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...deano i am here mate


..i reckon chip's name should be changed as its a clear advertisment of a food and one he clearly loves
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Right so , every signature with a link to a specific company that hasnt paid traders fees will be removed will it ?
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Originally Posted by Imatrukahs
...deano i am here mate


..i reckon chip's name should be changed as its a clear advertisment of a food and one he clearly loves

Was that intended as a constructive reply to this thread or did you aim at the muppet room and miss?
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
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and if you want to find all the trade names chip then hey that saves us alot of time...
I will PM you with any others that I spot mate, but I would be neglecting the forum I moderate if I spent hours and hours trawling through the list of usernames on here instead of one of this forums mods doing it TBH.
well as you were so quick in pointing out a so called missed username ...
or was it just to try and stir up some trouble??
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Originally Posted by Deano
Right so , every signature with a link to a specific company that hasnt paid traders fees will be removed will it ?
I dont see how it can possibly be fair to do anything else in view of the current climate with regards to non paying traders?
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Deano its a good idea and one i am willing to do...but its not been thought out properly and cannot work 100% there are not enuff staff for it...


BUT as for advertising your tuner..nowt wrong in that as its YOUR own opinion.
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Originally Posted by Imatrukahs
...deano i am here mate
I know mate

But think its toss this is only happening now 4 years after the site has opened that people are having their established user names revoked because of a few whinging traders

Im pretty sure PF isnt their main source of income for their respective business
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and if you want to find all the trade names chip then hey that saves us alot of time...
I will PM you with any others that I spot mate, but I would be neglecting the forum I moderate if I spent hours and hours trawling through the list of usernames on here instead of one of this forums mods doing it TBH.
well as you were so quick in pointing out a so called missed username ...
or was it just to try and stir up some trouble??
I pointed out one I spotted, as this debate is about usernames being changed, if it simply hadnt been spotted but is a non allowed name then why didnt you just say so rather than getting on your high horse, it looks more like you are causing trouble over it TBH

I wasnt sure if it only applied to traders who have a competitor who advertises on here or not.
For example I frequently link people to doug (garage19) for getting their dash flocked, am I now no longer allowed to do that?

The rules are unclear so I would like clarification, im not trying to cause trouble in the slightest though.
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Originally Posted by Deano
Right so , every signature with a link to a specific company that hasnt paid traders fees will be removed will it ?
no...

only if it is in a non paying traders signature if you get what i mean.

ok .... if you had a business that you made money from and advertised it in your signature it would be removed...

however if you had one pointing to mad turbosystems then it will stay..

no one is trying to dictate what is in signatures ..except if they break the rules of passionford
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Chip you are a muppet and your whole contribution is attension seeking..as per usual..go back and moderate your other website you hardly use as you are always here.
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Right so , every signature with a link to a specific company that hasnt paid traders fees will be removed will it ?
I dont see how it can possibly be fair to do anything else in view of the current climate with regards to non paying traders?
Completely agree , if were going down those lines then the only people that should be able to promote companys ......... are the companys themselves
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