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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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OK Guys & Girls,

Got some good prices quoted for an AP 330mm setup for the front of my 3 door but not sure whether to go for the 4 pots or 6 pots. My car is mainly used on the road but i plan to maybe do a couple of track sessions next year. Now i know that they are both very good setups but which to go for i am not sure. The price difference is £200 which is not a concern but as for performance? Is there much difference? Would the 6 pots be overkill for the road etc etc. Also which pad to go for as an overall best track/road compromise?

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:12 PM
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4pots will be fine or you could give me 2500 for all my brake setup
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:16 PM
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Given the weight of a 3-door - four-pots will be more than enough. Ferodo DS2500s (£100 delivered ) would be perfect.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:17 PM
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Yours won't fot under my 17's though Gus, there just too Fookin big
1200 for the 6 pots or 1k for the 4 pots, Brand new boxed!! Not bad prices but which ones???
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:19 PM
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Buy both, 6 pots on the front and the 4 pots on the rear
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:22 PM
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4 pots for the back may well come in the winter Wes!! On that note...If you put 4 pots on the back then you loose the hydraulic handbrake..correct?? How do you get round this for MOT etc etc??

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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its all hid in the console and they dont even know mine is any how and they never noticed all the fronts rears and hanbbrake set up 2500 u know u want to
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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I presume you meant "you USE a hydraulic handbrake"?

The std handbrake is cable operated, there is no reason why you couldn't fit a pair of mechanical handbrake calipers to keep it legal. Although it would be alot easier to just use a hydraulic handbrake, and take the car to a "freindly" MOT tester, if you know what i mean

Sourcing mechanical handbrake calipers is the problem, you can use RS200 items, but they are very rare! Wilwood do some, but they don't fit straight on, brembo do some but i have no info on these, so hydraulic would be the easiest option.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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ap also do some as fitted to the ultima gtr
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:35 PM
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Cheers for the advice Chaps. For now i will concentrate on fronts, rears will be the winter project when funds allow

Anyone else got opinions, experience, Good or otherwise, about the 4 pot/6pot setup for the front??

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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i had the 4 pots on the front of the saff and they was brilliant! no contest 6 pots was bought only because they was stupidly cheap and have a great amount of blingness when i buy a escort i will be sticking with 4 pots as value for money they cant be beaten all imo of course
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Gus,
You have PM
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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I have 6 on front, 4 on the back

But on a normal car on road or track, 4 will be fine

just read it now! fuck it for 200 extra snoots, get the 6's!
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Six and Four!!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:08 PM
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Gus, what exactly are you selling ?

6's for the front discs, pads how much ?
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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i will sell all the brakes once the engine has gone £2500 for them all with the handbrake conversion n all
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
i will sell all the brakes once the engine has gone £2500 for them all with the handbrake conversion n all
what master cylinder were you using mate ? the old abs set up ?
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yes m8
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cool well il look out for your for sale advert when the time comes ta
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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Mike, did you find out a price for them DS2500 for my standard calipers?

If i want to fit 16" wheels what size of caliper and disc can i fit? (Comp MO's or similar wheels with good clearance)
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Andy have a word with JP (John) reference the 6 pot AP's he does them for about 1400 quid all in
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Just noticed you have been quoted less so scratch my last post
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 03:54 PM
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Dont forget its not all about stopping power, the weight there is un-sprung so its not a case of biggest is best!
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Andy
Just thought you will really struggle to get the 6 potts under your Hocks!
Ian only just got them under his and they were ET35 and yours are ET40 if i recall?
You will have to run spacers which is not such a good thing so if i were you i would go for the 4 potts!!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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MMmmm....More food for thought. Defo don't want to run spacers Going to look into this further!! Will let you know how i get on!!

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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 04:33 PM
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Andreas,
Why don't you take a look on my website .
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
Andreas,
Why don't you take a look on my website .

is there prices now
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Just checked out the AP website & looking at there dimensioning it looks as though the six pots will fit as they have a smaller offset & utilise a 28mm thick disc where as the 4 pots use the 32mm disc & have a larger offset.

Check out the two link & let me know what you think:-

http://www.apracing.com/car/caliper/data.asp

the 4 pot i am looking at is the CP5200 & the 6pot is the CP5570

Input much appreciated.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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ive used 6pots and four pots (i now have four pots on !) and tbh ive never really found a major differance between them , ive got four pots now cause i needed them under 15" wheels !!! never had any problems at all !!
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The genuine AP Cosworth 4-pot kit uses a 28mm wide disc - look at their road car list .
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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blakey you have got that the wrong way round

6 pots 32mm discs
4 pots 28mm discs

you can get a 4 pot which will accept a 32 mm discs but only in motor sport spec

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or you could go for a brembo kit brand new calipers ford gen discs 326,28 mm
pads ds2500 and hoses bolts and brakets £680 steel brackets £750 ally brackets deliverd
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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I got Porsche brembo 4 pots on the front and 4x4 rears on my sapph and she works a treat.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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6 pots .. all the way
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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Did someone mention pot
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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no but i need some new pads for my ap 6 pots
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6 pots all the way but if you aint got £2000 plus then you aint got them
ap 330 kit £1200 list brembo kit nearly half that for the same stuff
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Brom can't wait to see the picts of the brembo kit!
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will do it now mate
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