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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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When I start my 4x4 Sierra the idle speed is increased (normal
when the engine is cold), after a few seconds it drops to ~900rpm
and then it starts to rise to appr. 1200rpm and will stay there.

Cleaned the ISCV but no change. What will happen if I disconnect
the ISCV? If it drops to normal revs will it mean that the ISCV
is not working properly?
If the ISCV is okay, what else can cause this problem?

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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Mathias
HI!

When I start my 4x4 Sierra the idle speed is increased (normal
when the engine is cold), after a few seconds it drops to ~900rpm
and then it starts to rise to appr. 1200rpm and will stay there.

Cleaned the ISCV but no change. What will happen if I disconnect
the ISCV? If it drops to normal revs will it mean that the ISCV
is not working properly?
If the ISCV is okay, what else can cause this problem?

regards
Mathias
Connection on the ISCV????
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Old Feb 10, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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HI!

What do you mean with "connection" on the ISCV?
Check the wiring?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mathias
HI!

What do you mean with "connection" on the ISCV?
Check the wiring?
Check the wires,mine were the wrong way round and had a dead transistor in my ECU
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:42 AM
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Even if wires were the wrong way round it would not make a difference as it is the POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE that causes the motion of the valve, ie the live is constant and the earth is pulsed as a digital signal.
Hard to see how it could be wrong way round any as conncetor is POLARISED.
A dodgy CTS will do this as if it detects a "COLD ENGINE" it will raise revs and richen mixture, the conncetors for these also play up.
Do a wiggle test whilst idling with the conncetors.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Even if wires were the wrong way round it would not make a difference as it is the POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE that causes the motion of the valve, ie the live is constant and the earth is pulsed as a digital signal.
Hard to see how it could be wrong way round any as conncetor is POLARISED.
A dodgy CTS will do this as if it detects a "COLD ENGINE" it will raise revs and richen mixture, the conncetors for these also play up.
Do a wiggle test whilst idling with the conncetors.
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You're right,if the wires are wrong way round or a faulty transistor like mine it holds the same rpm and does not drop and rise.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Even if wires were the wrong way round it would not make a difference as it is the POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE that causes the motion of the valve, ie the live is constant and the earth is pulsed as a digital signal.
Hard to see how it could be wrong way round any as conncetor is POLARISED.
A dodgy CTS will do this as if it detects a "COLD ENGINE" it will raise revs and richen mixture, the conncetors for these also play up.
Do a wiggle test whilst idling with the conncetors.
tabetha
HI!

Removed the ISCV plug, but now change on revs. Where is the
CTS located?
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Default Re: Idle speed on 1200rpm

Originally Posted by Mathias
HI!

When I start my 4x4 Sierra the idle speed is increased (normal
when the engine is cold), after a few seconds it drops to ~900rpm
and then it starts to rise to appr. 1200rpm and will stay there.

Cleaned the ISCV but no change. What will happen if I disconnect
the ISCV? If it drops to normal revs will it mean that the ISCV
is not working properly?
If the ISCV is okay, what else can cause this problem?

regards
Mathias
May be you have an electronic problem. Hight idle speed (1.200 / 1.400 rpm) is a signal (only with L8 and P8) that something wrong on your sensors.
Do an autodiag.

Regards

Claude
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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Comming from a short drive. Idle speed is exactly 1400rpm!

Can you gibe me an advice how to do an autodiagnostic?
Is there something written in the Cosworth workshop manual?
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Old Feb 11, 2007 | 07:17 PM
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COOLANT TEMP SENSOR is located at back of cylinder head underneath plenum area on 2wd but believe it may be somewhere else on 4wd, not sure if this is the CTS or the temp guage sender ?, that is in a different place to 2wd.
Worth finding to disconnect to try first as it is a no cost thing to see.
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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HI!

Will have a look on the weekend and also check the the ecu
for error codes
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~pete...ecu_error.html
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Default idle speed

take of the boost hose to inlet chamber and check the butter fly has a little clearnce with a feeler gauge had that problem myself and that fixed it
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Old Feb 12, 2007 | 06:15 PM
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Default Re: idle speed

Originally Posted by philbert
take of the boost hose to inlet chamber and check the butter fly has a little clearnce with a feeler gauge had that problem myself and that fixed it
HI!

Sorry, I´m not 100% sure what you mean. I shall remove the boost
hose from the intercooler to the throttle valve and then?
What is a feeler gauge? You mean that your throttle valve didn´t
close properly?
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Default 1200 idle

the throttle valve should have a small gap ie 1mm or so
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Old Feb 13, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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I understand, will have a look on it.

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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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Default Re: Idle speed on 1200rpm

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Originally Posted by Mathias
HI!

When I start my 4x4 Sierra the idle speed is increased (normal
when the engine is cold), after a few seconds it drops to ~900rpm
and then it starts to rise to appr. 1200rpm and will stay there.

Cleaned the ISCV but no change. What will happen if I disconnect
the ISCV? If it drops to normal revs will it mean that the ISCV
is not working properly?
If the ISCV is okay, what else can cause this problem?

regards
Mathias
May be you have an electronic problem. Hight idle speed (1.200 / 1.400 rpm) is a signal (only with L8 and P8) that something wrong on your sensors.
Do an autodiag.

Regards

Claude
HI!

Wanted to make an autodiagnostic, but was not working. Was ist due
to a non original chip?
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Old Feb 20, 2007 | 06:47 AM
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Default Re: 1200 idle

Originally Posted by philbert
the throttle valve should have a small gap ie 1mm or so
Hi!

Checked it on weekend. Where is this gap?
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 06:29 AM
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I have the same problem with my 1.6 CVH and this is my 3rd time.

The only thing I managed until now every time i change this starter motor it works for 2-3 months and after that story goes on.
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