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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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has anyone been watching these programms on bbc1 on a tuesday last week was the so called "designer babies"
tonight is the frozen embrioes
and there is another 4 parts to the programm
i know many people on here have had to go through these sort off things
i for one had to and luckly it worked 2nd time for me

what are people's views on all this?
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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The wife and i just watched it.

Will be interested in next weeks program.

As some of you know we had IVF again this summer and it didn't work this time

We are very lucky that it worked the first time and we have a 20month old girl

So for all those that are trying it can and does work

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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here is my view, some may find it harsh but it's my views on the subject so hear me out:

right, some women can't have kids, end of, now, wether this is beause they just can't or don't have the bits or can't carry a child to full term or whatever other reason shouldn't mean that they shouldn't have kids
but once it's established that they can't have kids "normally" then the govt should try and work out the why's and whatnots, and if it's because they can't end of, then they should try to have kids but adobt
if they can ebcause they've got fully functioning bits then the govt should fork out a few quid to help them have a few goes at ivf
after that then it would be up to the individual but you can't put a price on having your own kid, i know i oculdn't and i was totalty devasteted when my amy had a miscarriage (that story is just so fucked up i don't think anyone other than me and her know so i'd rather not go into that) but we still "celebrate" that baby on his/her "birthday"
there is always the surrogate mother angle and there are always adoption and fostering angles to consider, but i believe that there is no way you can have a "right" to have kids in the same way that they can't (debatably) stop 12 year old girls from having kids

once there was a time when all this embryo lark was a work of science fiction, but now it seems that people are tkaing it to the next level and it's the amount of money you have that goverens how well your child will develop

there was a film about this a while ago, i think it was called gatica, where you were only allowed to have kids if you were of a certain breeding, wrong wrong wrong

your kid, even if it was born with 5 heads and 3 legs, would still be your kid, and i for one would still love my kids for being my kids, not becuase i thought they would become a film star or design the next space ship or become a jedi

ok, gone a little off the topic here, but yes, if you can have kids, fine, if you can't, you should be able to give up at some point rather than fill the world with 70 year old women who have triplets and won't be around to see them in their first christams play
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:26 PM
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btw, one of my mates has spent close to Ł40k on ivf over the past few years, and, as much as i love him as a mate, i couldn't ask him to give up to his face
and one of my neighbours is still trying for another baby after her 7th miscarriage and i couldn't bring myself to tell them to not bother either
no matter how my views may be percevied in the above post
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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 06:23 AM
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I didn't agree with the woman on last weeks show trying to select a baby girl, you should just be happy to have a child.
(she had 4 boys)

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Old Nov 22, 2006 | 07:42 AM
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if she's already got 4 kids why is she desperate to have another one
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