Took me for a quick blast in his new 24v toy. Have to be honest and say I wasn't expecting much from it. My God was I wrong! It pulls like a fookin train train and sounds awesome. The torque is available so low down and just keeps pulling all the way to the limiter. I can honestly say I can see it having no probs with a Stage 1 Cossie. Very very impressed.

Cheers Jimbo mate I need to return the favour at the next one

 

does go quite well don't it steve !!!!!

 

I thought it would be quite good but I really wasn't prepared for what it delivered. It really did make me grin

 

well ive not been out in it yet, but if i dont get a quicker car than jim im buying a bike ( dont mean a marin either)

 

ive been out ina few v6 cossie and i was very suprised witht them

 

LOL you're joking right?

A stage 1 cossie will absolutely destroy a V6 24v powered saph!!

 

must admit i am with Karl here, cant see how a 24v V6 is gonna be quicker than a stg 1 cossie?

 

spends which stage 1 conversion it is, there are a few slow stage 1 cars about

oh and i think he means at lower rpm

 

in what way Ginge? 0-60? what is it meant to be in a 24v compared to a stg 1 cossie? I think u will find the cossie is quicker

 

Not joking at all The torque it had was available so low down the rev range and held all the way round the rev counter. I honestly beleive it would give a stage 1 Cossie a real run for it's money.

Don't get me wrong I love the Cossie and if I could talk the missus into it would have one tomorrow. My point in the post was that a lot of peeps were calling it a shonky V6, I wasn'nt expecting as much from the car as it delivered and my blinkers have been removed by the experience.

 

not calling the car shonky bu can it really do 60 in under 6 seconds? I reckon not, and even midrange i bet a stg 1 2wd will have in 3rd or 4th gear

 

For sure Switch once the speeds climb it may be different. The Cossie will have lag and it's the lack of that that lag that impressed me so much and the instant wave of torque that would have my money put on it. Ok so maybe a stage 1 car is stretching it a bit far but I bet it would be a lot closer than most people would think. Get Jim to take you for a spin at the next meet and you'll soon see where I am coming from.

 

well jims first shed was fooking rapid on acceleration ( dont mean very fast mph wise) just the force or throwing ya back in ya seat was

 

Oranoco, My stage 1 cossie setup makes 300lbf t torque at 2800rpm? It has near zero lag so is in a different league to the V6 24v.

I admit the V6 will be better around 1000rpm to 2500rpm but who drives their car in that range anyway !!! ROFLOL

Typically if you take pops car as an example 5.0 secs to 60, 12.5 to 100, 157mph top end? Not much contest is there!

 

my m8 did a 7. sumthing 0-60 in his 24v xr4x4

 

ive been in pops car and its not a slow car , but then everyone knows that as hes always in front

whats most stage 1 saph times like

oh and pops car has soooooooooo much wax on it, it helps the aerodynamics for it too

 

A conventional Stage 1 setup wth a flat 14psi will produce 0 - 60 in 6 secs, 0 - 100 in 13.5secs, 145-150mph top speed.

 

fook me 14psi, now pops spikes a bit more than that

 

What sort of power will a 24V typically make Karl?

 

What spec Bernie?

Normally I see them with around the 200bhp mark.

 

I guess there's no contest then. There's no arguing with numbers

 

why not a run what ya brung to prove

give jim a few weeks to get his set up

 

LOL @ Bernie, what are you trying to imply?

I've driven enough cars fitted with the 24v V6 to know how it compares to a stage 1 YB engine and theres no contest, other than when going to sainsburys to do the shopping. (i.e. VERY low rpm)

 

does jims car squeal like stu's xr4x4 when ya rag it ?????


as that sounds cool imo ( if ya hear it ya will know what i mean

 

I had a V6 24v Cosworth Granda and can honestly say the Stage 1 Cossie would rip its fucking head off

 

well i went out with jim on friday,and was most impressed with the car
but i can honestly say it wouldn't stand a chance against a normal stage1
thats not to say the car wasn't good,as it was.nice and smooth and everything

ol and karl,damp times and only hitting 6.2k,so loads more than that left in the old girl .was playing with jay browns old escos on friday night,put it this way it didnt embrases me

 

I did

 

LOL, anyway must'nt forget to say good luck to Jim with his new car, hope it all goes well for him!!

Aye the 24v does thump along quite nicely, (driven a couple of mk2 escorts with them fitted) and they give the perception of being quick because of the low down torque. However when put against the clock its a totally different matter!

 

guys guys please stop arguing over it

cheers for the kind words guys

however i wouldnt expect it to beat stg1 cossies if both were driven properly. however give it a few weeks and i hope itl be a different story

and karl as for 0-60 times i know of at least 2 that have done proven low 6es 0-60 and also remember that the cars have to be in THIRD gear to get to 60mph, unlike a cossie that can do it in 2nd, so you gotta add in the gearchange time there too

i'd like to point out that mine will be running at the fordsport national weekend at the beginning of august and i hope to get some decent times down (ive got a whole weekend to get the launch right... lol) so hopfully then we'll know... also i'll probably get it RRed at engine advantages at some point in the next month too so you can see a power figure.

altho lets remember the main thing... i'm perfectly happy with the car and it's performance if its slower than a cosworth... i dont care

 

Jim

Is it RWD or a 4x4????

 

me,never benn
mr bad back

 

you fooking p****s

 

tiff its RWD using a MT75 gearbox from a 12v 2.9 manual granada and 4x4 cossie rear diff.

here's some decent piccies i just took:


needs some snapped clips on the skirt replacing near rear jacking point cover


needs towing eye cover... got one that needs paint ready to fit


mmmm, heated seats SOOOOO nice!


its not really pink, just bad lighting ps i need a cossie rear bumper for her (pm meif ya got)

 

Jim, your target is 5.0 secs then for pops, or 5.38 secs for tiff, both done at brunters on a damp day!

Reckon you'll beat that?

What about top speed, reckon you'll crack a genuine 150mph @ brunters?

 

Wasn't implying anything Karl. I didn't know what power the 24V made.
You can't get away from the maths of power to weight ratio, and I didn't know one of the numbers for comparison.

You working today mate? Or like me at home?

 

There is the Gaunlet Jimbo

I will have to leave the Head to Head at the Pod for Popeye to do

By the way, if the clocks read 170mph you wont be doing that

 

P.S. jim, I think the motor looks really well! Good choice matey, now look after her!

 

i honestly beleive that the car will be capable of it after its had its magic worked on it... if i am or not is a different matter im a SHIT driver

no because the car's not geared for it

6200rpm revlimit, 4x4 cossie ratios, 205/45/16... you work out the top speed

 

Agree with Karl, The car does look very nice mate

 

tiff, 150mph clocks in mine... i dont wanna fit 170 ones... the car wont do 150 let alone 170, so why bother fitting 170 clocks