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Old Nov 15, 2006 | 10:30 PM
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thinking of doing this at the monment but would be nice to know if it is really worth it? and do you have to have a bias valve to stop it swapping ends under heavy breaking?
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 03:31 PM
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Thats gota be a first you asking the questions

I think the general view on it is that when you are, and i quote, "take the piss braking" then things can get a little hairy.

And fitting discs on the back is when you start increasing the travel on the pedal, the pistons are massive for rear calipers.

On the plus side, they look the tits...... and changing pads is easy
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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I had them on my S2 for 5 years, but just went back to drums at the beginning of this year due to a change of wheels (I needed the rear wheels to sit a little further in to stop fouling the arch).

IMO they are more for show than go, so i wasnt too sorry to take them off.

You can adjust the severity of braking with the load sensor valves easy enough, best done on an MOT brake tester, so you shouldnt really need a bias valve.
Just get them set up so they brake as much as the drums used to...

Handbrake was always shit on mine though, nowhere near as good as the drum handbrake...

As Safechav says though, they look the tits!!!
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 03:51 PM
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Marc LJX, you probably don't want to hear it but there are ways to stop the discs pushing the wheels out, mine are only a coouple of MM spaced out now.

But mine being a MK3 they still didn't clear the arches, on a MK3 the ONLY way is to have the arch modded. And alike....mine doesnt have variable load valves.........
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DISCS FOR SHOW

DRUMS TO SLOW.
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Thats gota be a first you asking the questions

pmsl i'm good, but i dont know everything
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SafeChav, how do you make them not space the wheels out so much?
Do you have to get the hubs machined or something?

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Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
DISCS FOR SHOW

DRUMS TO SLOW.
Which is why every modern racecar runs drumbrakes!!!!
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
DISCS FOR SHOW

DRUMS TO SLOW.
PMSL We have an RS geek among us it would seem

Originally Posted by addiction
Originally Posted by SafeChav
Thats gota be a first you asking the questions
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Awww too bad........i do

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SafeChav, how do you make them not space the wheels out so much?
Do you have to get the hubs machined or something?

Basically yeah........ theoretically you could quite easily bring the wheels fully back but personally i think you can only re-gain so much before you start compromising safety
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Definately yeah, but how do you know how much to safely take?

I have been known to do the occasional trackday...

If one of the hubs failed that would see some serious end swapping action
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i have a set of brand new discs, pads, 2nd hand calipers, hubs for sale if your interested...only thing u need is a cable and the brakets

im only after Ł120 for the lot

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Originally Posted by Micky
Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
DISCS FOR SHOW

DRUMS TO SLOW.
Which is why every modern racecar runs drumbrakes!!!!


Please don,t compare a 15 year old ESCORT RS TURBO to an up to date RACE CAR.The stopping efficienncy of REAR DISCS over DRUMS on an ESCORT is minimal.

Also note the ammount of exclamation marks iv,e used to show my rage.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Nov 16, 2006 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
exclamation marks iv,e used
I noticed the punctuation you used cos you can't spell
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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Braking on RST is mostly done by front brakes. It doesn't really matter what you have in the back. I would stick to the drums as the handbrake works better on them
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:27 AM
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As above

Depends if you want brakes that look good, or if you want to do handbarke turns on dry tarmac
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I much preferred the discs on the rear of mine to drums:

a) The handbrake was far superior! You can easily lock both rear wheels for a swift handbrake turn which I could never do with Drums

b) Much easier to change pads which is important when doing a few track days

Also, the bias valve is a must!
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Once set up correctly (no one else seems to have mentioned this) the front
of the car doesn't dive as much with disc's. Which, apart from (subjective comment alert) 'slightly better' braking is the nicest effect.
But if anyone is considering this conversion it's essential to steel braid all the hose AND remove the scs pumps and ALL the rubber hoses that run to+from
them to enjoy 'proper braking'. ........I.M.O. obviously gents.......
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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my mate changed his to discs on the rear and was always wary of the arse end coming out...

I changed mine AND the fronts, removed the ABS and braided the lines. Never had a problem, I think thats the key really

and totally agree with John, the handbrake is lovely, just make sure you put it on with the foot brake pressed down when you park up after a spirited drive, if not it can lead to your car rolling away
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
exclamation marks iv,e used
I noticed the punctuation you used cos you can't spell


What sort of name is fucking SAFECHAV anyway.........
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Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
exclamation marks iv,e used
I noticed the punctuation you used cos you can't spell


What sort of name is fucking SAFECHAV anyway.........
Mine it would appear

Have you consider changing yours to SafePunctuation
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
Originally Posted by SafeChav
Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
exclamation marks iv,e used
I noticed the punctuation you used cos you can't spell


What sort of name is fucking SAFECHAV anyway.........
Mine it would appear

Have you consider changing yours to SafePunctuation
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That,s what your name really means.
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Someone else knows him well then

Mine has disc's because they work and are designed to do just what ivorbiggun posted.

Car brakes from all 4 corner and keeps it level which is essential when left footing it round corners
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Old Nov 17, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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keep em small though eh tony...
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i got sierra rear disc's and the are too powerfull, you need bias valve.
drums work fine but look crap
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I run bog standard sierra rears with the cheapest pads i can find too
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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if u car aint that powerful and i dont drive i nob drums are ok

othrewise its proper break time
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Must admit i never really put too much effort into setting mine up properly...
Must try harder next time...
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i've had disks on a few rst's, i don't have problems with them, as said because the rears are braking more it stops the car diving as much, plus i hate drums, akward to work on & look a bit tat.
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handbrake ok on mine looks better than drums and quicker pad change over. i would do it again.
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Originally Posted by mercury grey minter
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That,s what your name really means.
Hmmmmm i'm still seeing some problems

To make it easy for you ive highlighted the punctuation error and MISSING word
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