had a bit of a disagreement with a used car dealer yesterday, basiclly i was talking about cougars, how i quite liked em, and he was saying theyre shit old boats. i mentioned that the v6 could easily be taken to over 200bhp with the st200 parts (cams, exhuasts, inlet, ecu) and then he went on about them being totally different engines. i argued the blocks and heads were the same from the 167bhp lumps, to the st200 200bhp lumps. he said otherwise, sayign that the internals were all different.

he also reconed theyre fragile and hes always replacing engines in st200s

can someone confirm whether the st200 lump is essentially the same bare engine with different auxilaries?

 

you are right i think the block and heads are the same

the cams ecu and Throttle body are different thas it as far as i know

 

yeah thought so, i know the inlet manifolds are different as they have larger secondaries. think the exhuast manifolds are different aswell but might eb wrong on that.

bloke was a knob.

 

same engine, just been worked a little to get more power out of it
it's got extruded inlet manifolds etc and other bits and bobs

along the same lines as the zetec 1.8, comes in 105, 115 and 130 brake versions of essentially the same engine

and other than the problems with the water pumps having plastic impellors on them i can't recall anything else going wrong with them

 

they are a nice little engine me dad has a cougar v6 nice car

and the water pumps u just change for the metal one job done

 

There is different internals on the st200 engine aswell
as the throttle body ,induction system etc etc

the water pumps are shite and replace with a metel impellor one as original is plastic and can break internally

they are a common failure engine also ,bad for letting bearings go with oil surges , they dont like hard cornering left iirc and hard revs in second

nice lookin cars tho ,mate used to have one of the saloon limited numbers (only 300 made) he had 299 ,

 

You often see atleast one 2.5 on autotrader cheap with knocking engine..

 

so how come you see loads of them everytime you go to southend then?
are they just cruise machines

at least if i am being chased by one i'll know to whack it round loads of left hand corners

 

Block and the heads are the same, Diffrent pistons, cams, exhausts, throttlebody, airbox and upper and lower inlet manoflds are the main diffrences.

 

They are half an Aston Martin engine, originally developed for Porsche.

 

i thought the aston engine was 2 mondy v6 lumps welded together?

 

yup thats correct