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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:07 AM
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Essex Police have a new undercover car to add to their already bulging undercover department.

MAGENTA SIERRA SAPPHIRE 2WD COSWORTH

I wish I could say I am kidding but I know for a fact that they have just taken delivery of a 'modified' Sierra Cosworth 2wd.
The only details I have are 'F' reg, Magenta and it may have different wheels on i as well.
This completes their line up of undercover vehicles, which to date includes.
Blue Scooby
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and the usual BMW's and Omega.
Please bear this in mind next time you have a Cossy sitting up your arse and you want to play.
The car will be driven by a 'younger officer' and passenger will probably be dressed like a joyrider too
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:09 AM
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Forgot to say car is already fitted with VASCAR (video survelance equipment) but may only be used in Essex for a month.
Hopefully it will breakdown for 3 weeks of that.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:11 AM
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hmmmm bastids
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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I thought the maximum age of any plod car was 3 yrs old.......didnt think they were aloud to use older cars.....
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cossymad
Hopefully it will breakdown for 3 weeks of that.
Your giving it as long as that?
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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Thats evil of them to use such a car as bait.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dannfire
I thought the maximum age of any plod car was 3 yrs old.......didnt think they were aloud to use older cars.....
I thought this was the case as well.

There must be safety/insurance issues surrounding the use of a modified 15yr old car with no airbags, side impact bars etc

If it is true then they are sneaky fookers
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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Fuck um if your cars fast enough then it will piss on them, i also beleive entrapment is illegal, PRICKS

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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jock
Fuck um if your cars fast enough then it will piss on them, i also beleive entrapment is illegal, PRICKS

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was just thinking about that
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 10:16 AM
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Hopefully it will breakdown for 3 weeks of that.


think they might have trouble with the entrapment law, id be suprised if they could go out cossie and RS baiting like that
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 10:35 AM
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Forgot to say car is already fitted with VASCAR (video survelance equipment) but may only be used in Essex for a month.
Hopefully it will breakdown for 3 weeks of that
Class - was about s/e sat night and saw the undercover bm got someone
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Say what you like but it exsists so be careful
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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Essex customs and Excise have a Scooby.

Favourite place for baiting is the new (ish) A130
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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well all i can say is what a mint job the guy has that drives the thing! goes around looking for races all day
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bet its got a dump vavle too
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kev.H
bet its got a dump vavle too
class......
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by adamS2RST
Class - was about s/e sat night and saw the undercover bm got someone
Ive got the rego of that one written down in me car. I do the A130 between Chelmsford & Wickford every night. Will post it up later.
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:03 PM
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also saw the silver BMW on saturday night
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Hope they do have trouble with the entrapment law, sounds unfair to me...
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 04:54 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 04:57 PM
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Cheers, will keep an eye out for that. Slippery fuckers!
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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That's hilarious!

So this policeman gets to drive a rusty heap of a saff, whilst his mate's probably hooning round in comfort in a fully loaded T5.
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Well all I can add to that is.....
Maybe they shuld try getting a 1.1 saxo with all the usual ''refinements'' if they want to catch some real dangerous idiots.....you know with 4 exhausts their emissions must be worth a look.....lmfao (yes its just a joke people, I know it makes no difference how many holes its coming out of)
Catch some real psycho idiots when you get urself a 12 year old nova.....
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watch as its a 2wd car the guy drivin it wont know wats hes doin and end up wrappin it round a tree. probably injuring someone or perhaps worse and cos its a unmarked car they'll blame it on street racing
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I thought the maximum age of any plod car was 3 yrs old.......didnt think they were aloud to use older cars.....


I thought this was the case as well.

There must be safety/insurance issues surrounding the use of a modified 15yr old car with no airbags, side impact bars etc
Nah, the cops can keep any vehicle as long as they want. Drivers might have something to say about the lack of safety items, but that's their call.
Lothian & Borders have (or at least did 6 months ago) have an old Rover 800 hatch, still fully liveried. I've supplied motors on longer contracts from new, and even supplied end of contract cars for short-term plain-clothes/undercover use.

watch as its a 2wd car the guy drivin it wont know wats hes doin and end up wrappin it round a tree. probably injuring someone or perhaps worse and cos its a unmarked car they'll blame it on street racing
Hmmm. Say what you like about the cops, but anyone with a Class One licence is unlikely to wrap a car because he "doesn't know what he's doing". These guys are way superior drivers to probably 99.9% of drivers on the road - if you are in the 0.1% that are better than them, I bow before you!!!
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Originally Posted by The Knife
Hmmm. Say what you like about the cops, but anyone with a Class One licence is unlikely to wrap a car because he "doesn't know what he's doing". These guys are way superior drivers to probably 99.9% of drivers on the road - if you are in the 0.1% that are better than them, I bow before you!!!
Get up, you're embarassing me
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Originally Posted by Katie
Well all I can add to that is.....
Maybe they shuld try getting a 1.1 saxo with all the usual ''refinements'' if they want to catch some real dangerous idiots.....you know with 4 exhausts their emissions must be worth a look.....lmfao (yes its just a joke people, I know it makes no difference how many holes its coming out of)
Catch some real psycho idiots when you get urself a 12 year old nova.....
The point is tho, a modded saph will catch most stuff on the road, they may as well be on foot if they gonna be in a saxo
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Originally Posted by The Knife
Hmmm. Say what you like about the cops, but anyone with a Class One licence is unlikely to wrap a car because he "doesn't know what he's doing". These guys are way superior drivers to probably 99.9% of drivers on the road - if you are in the 0.1% that are better than them, I bow before you!!!
Very true. I love how everyone into performance cars thinks they are the bollox and that the police don't know shit about driving. Yeah true, half the "normal beat" cops who drive the diesel astra's etc don't know how to handle performncae cars and yes you will probably beat them. But the pro "police drivers" are among the best drivers in the country, as The Knife said. I know this as a close family friend is a police pursuit driver. He spent months in training for it, and thats after years of service as a "regular" police driver (to which they are pretty well trained. His knowledge and understanding of how to drive fast and handle performance cars and his abilty to do things in cars is second to none and very reminiscent of how race car drivers think and act.

So very unlikely that the driver of this Saff will wrap it round a tree and less likely to be out driven by 99% of the people on here, and 99% of the people on the road in general.

And back to the entrapment thing - So how jsut cos it is a Saff Cos does it constitute "entrapment"????? Do you actually know what entrapment is? Tell why if they have an undercover Saff it is entrapment, but an undercover Volvo T5 isn't? Is it because you are more likely to try and race this Saff rather than the T5? Well that isn't entrapment, thats you being a twat

Do you actually know what entrapment is? Entrapment is, for example, a cop going undercover as a dealer and setting up a deal with someone, actually supplying them the drugs so it is in the buyers possesion after having paid for it, then trying to nick them. THAT is entrapment.

Now it would be entrapment if this Saff Cos driver went out all day baiting boy racers etc for races then nicking em when the break the speed limit or drive dangerously. But the likely hood of that happening is slim. Nigh on anorexic

In most likly ness what will happen is it will cruise about and nick peep who try and race it, and might well be used for rapid response.

Anther reason the police use popular performance cars like these and the Evo's/Buru's etc is to try and connect with the performance car fraternity, in the hope of gaining respect, so that they might be able to enlighten some of you. You will probably laff and tell yourself "I ain't gonna be impressed with a copper jsut cos he drives the same car as me" but in practice it does work. underneath, all your coppers are jsut regular people. They ain't "out to get YOU", thats orders from "THE MAN". THE MAN is the enemy, not the copper following his orders. I guarantee you if you would spend the time actually talking to these officers, they will tell you and you will realise that they don['t want to nick you at all. Cos they don't want to have to chase you. Most pursuit drivers really don't want to chase people cos it puts them at risk, the public at risk and the person they are chasing at risk. They would rather educate you so you don't drive like a WANKER trying to race everything with more than 40bhp
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watch as its a 2wd car the guy drivin it wont know wats hes doin and end up wrappin it round a tree. probably injuring someone or perhaps worse and cos its a unmarked car they'll blame it on street racing
Hmmm. Say what you like about the cops, but anyone with a Class One licence is unlikely to wrap a car because he "doesn't know what he's doing". These guys are way superior drivers to probably 99.9% of drivers on the road - if you are in the 0.1% that are better than them, I bow before you!!!
yeah but as these cars will b used as high speed pursuit vehicle and would u use a 2wd saph for a high speed chase thru the streets over a volvo t5 or scooby???
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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or does this mean that the police budget is bein cut so they have to go for cheaper performance cars now........lol
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its only entrapment if they get you to race them,some how i doubt that though
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Old Aug 16, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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I'm with Knife and Thrush, I have HUGE ammoounts of respect for traffic police/pursuit drivers, widely recognised as THE BEST drivers in the country end of, as a racing driver, you are in a semi controlled environment, not qute the sameon the public highways ay
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