As title, and what do you get in to the kit???

Do you get the hoses etc or just the catch pot?

 

I have the Bailey one, you just get the tank, so you need to buy a fitting kit aswell, usually Ł25.00 which includes pipes, clip, alloy tube to go on cam cover and one for the plug under the manifold side. Mine Breathes from both sides and the cam cover.

AL....

 

I have the bailey, but with longer hoses to allow breathing from both sides, rather than top and one side

Also I have a dedicated breather return welded onto my sump

Neil.

 

TBH the best are the ones u have a long think about and design yourself ,

Then get me to make it ,

Push fittings , Jic , BSP , your choice ,

Locations are up to you for a nice neat engine bay ,

I can supply all the Silicone or braided hose u need in any colour , plus any tube aswell ,

Try me tiff , a one off for your car and probably cheeper than the batch made tat u just buy over the counter .

 

Lee

I will speak to Mr Norris and see where he thinks would be best, then i will get back to you mate

Cheers

 

not necessarily the best but works very well with my car

mine has a turbosystems tank/seperator....



as you can see it dont have the cam cover tapped, runs 2 bar boost and uses sod all oil (say half a litre per 1000miles), only once did it spit some down the inner wing out the breather after some grief and thats cos i overfilled it

tried and tested mate dont believe the hype

PS you may need to check with karl if this type of oil return to sump is ok for you i.e. i run a windage tray and you dont

EDITED is that size ok now mr mod? i wasnt online to resize it when you asked but cheers for seeing that simple logic and deleting it anyway

 

Matt, is that a bleed valve ii can see?

 

yes

i dont run amal control or air to air

 

IMO the breather kits i have seen are wrong

IMO it needs to vent on both sides of the block not jut on the one side where the crank is moving away from cause of the pressure.

at least that's what i discussed with me mate

 

TARCAL CUSTOM BREATHER

 

GGR ones look awesome, dont know how they perform. (best looking Tanks i've ever seen, especially with all the bling bling aeroquip fittings)

had 2 Bailey's ones before and both worked very well

 

aye, they're tarcal

 

oh ok my bad

ignorance is bliss.

 

ryan

mines tarcal

so now you know

 

yours is bling anyway elton with all the aeroquip on there

but cheers for the info

 

i aint dingy mo fo

dings is his own design

**pic removed due to excessive size**


the pic of my car above is a tarcal tank, and i dont do quipe or bling as a rule BUT i am gonna replace the black hose from tank to flame trap with same hose/fittings as dings when i can be arsed to get the tank modded for a screw on fitting

 

sorry matt your fookin siggy's confuse little old me.

 

Tiff,

I have the TS one, as does Matt, Kevin Sharp and Del etc etc etc ........ fortunately I wasnt as tight as Matt and bought the proper braided hosing, instead of the garden hose that Matt uses!!! lol

 

So is it wrong to vent from both cams (this is what i was told)because mine is.

 

that hose came from tims garden shed shaun been meaning to change it for a good year now

why the hell breath from both cams? you dont get any pressure up there, a cam cover breather is simply an aid to let the oil return to the block more easily

 

Here is mine works very well, vented from both sides of block


hope that helps

cheeRS DUNC

 

Its not "Wrong" to breath from there but its not optimum.

You MUST "IMO" Breathe from the crankcase direct as well.
Pressure build begins mainly in the sump but dont let anyone tell you it doesnt reach the head as this is a myth and is EASILY proved.

Blow into a balloon.
Does the pressure you just blew in the bottom affect the bottom of the balloon only? Or does it compress all the air in the ballon and thus change the air pressure in the whole balloon pretty uniformly and inflate the whole thing at once? Ok....Good, thats that Myth squashed.

As well as the fact compressing any volume of air is a uniform task regardless of where the air is introduced, there is also the fact that valve guides can and do leak a little air into the cylinder head space.. especially ones that are running 2bar plus positive pressure on them. Its only a little, but every little counts...

What "Releaving" the pressure via the head alone or mainly does do that is poor, is it allows the compressed air flowing upwards to your breather outlets slow the return of oil to the sump.. this isnt ideal and can cause the sump level to drop below ideal, risking expensive engine damage/failure. This is the main reason why you must also breathe from the crankcase mainly or as well as.

Also bear in mind that breathing from BOTH sides of teh crankcase is prefferable to stop any oil surge covering the breather port in use and essentially dissabling your breather system at a critical time. (This is what happens as std when she dumps oil everywhere after a thrash..lol)

The final point to note is this.
It pisses me off everytime i see a nice new shiny and expensive breather on the market that has say.. for arguments sake... 4 nice 16mm intake ports, perhaps 2 for crankcase and 2 for camcover.. great eh? 4x the std breather outlets

It also has an oil return.. brilliant, should save a little on oil consumption/loss...

Finally it also has a 1x 16mm or slightly larger return to atmosphere/airbox for the relieved sump pressure...

Erm... who can tell me whats wrong with this design?

 

Resize your pics eh guys.. the topics stretched now

 

As far as i understand it, your cams have fook all pressure so won't breathe anyway.

Both sides of block and head - head is NOT a head/cam breather either FFS LOL, its a crank breather and aids oil circulation so is needed. oil return to sump

 

now i am confused

 

4 x 16mm engine outlets - total effective engine outlet size to breather tank = 64mm

only outlet to atmosphere from breather catch tank is still 16mm - hence you havent then breathed anything more than what the std engine had

 

i agree

 

Give the man 5 gold stars
Offtopic.. you missed a great night of beers and strippers last night mate.. with more to come tonight...

 

so what is the answer to making it better stu?

i still run my standard breather as it dont breath heavy at all

 

i fookin know !!

i was all sorted to come , got the missus to bring me and the lot , until , the heavens opened in our village - floods everywhere , spent 4 hours pumping rain water out of my relatives house , conseravtory was in 2feet of water , kitchen was in 1 foot of water , garden well , was upt to my waiste

fire brigade couldnt come till late they had others to do 1st , roads were blocked , glad i was in the van , and that the air intake is at the very top of the engine , i was able to drive through it where as all the cars were just stopped in the middle

so just to really piss me off you tell me its on again tonight ???
and when ive already said i will work ( well im playing for a band ) in st annes tonight

 

for IMA

 

wrong

why do people always add diameters,,, dont you guys care about volumes/areas

 

btt for tiff

 

A Blue peter one!!! made out of a fairy liquid bottle and sticky back plastic

 

So did you read this Phil?

 

did you read my post Stu.

 

What post is that pal?

 

its called FAO to Stu or Karl. its in the general discussion under the name wimwerf.

 

for Doo

 

My bailey breather has a larger dia hole to atmosphere than the inputs so have they got it right stu ?