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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 01:38 PM
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should stay with the 4x4 or change to a 2wd or 3 door
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 01:55 PM
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4wd
good bits:
traction and going to donnington means you can move about in the mud
bad bits:
gearboxes are made of chocloate

2wd
good bits:
sideways for as long as you can hold it
bad bits:
old cars are looking old

up to you
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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3 door...........

But im byast
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
4wd
good bits:
traction and going to donnington means you can move about in the mud
bad bits:
gearboxes are made of chocloate

2wd
good bits:
sideways for as long as you can hold it
bad bits:
old cars are looking old

up to you
4wd box chocolate....bull shit....standard is 220bhp...and the limit is 350-380bhp...so a not a shy limit i guess..

it can take less then the 2wd box....only because of the traction a 4wd has...it slip less easy...
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
4wd
good bits:
traction and going to donnington means you can move about in the mud
bad bits:
gearboxes are made of chocloate

2wd
good bits:
sideways for as long as you can hold it
bad bits:
old cars are looking old

up to you
4wd box chocolate....bull shit....standard is 220bhp...and the limit is 350-380bhp...so a not a shy limit i guess..

it can take less then the 2wd box....only because of the traction a 4wd has...it slip less easy...
It wouldn`t last long with 380 going through it
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 08:21 PM
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My mate had 650bhp on a straight cut box(4x4)
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
4wd
good bits:
traction and going to donnington means you can move about in the mud
bad bits:
gearboxes are made of chocloate

2wd
good bits:
sideways for as long as you can hold it
bad bits:
old cars are looking old

up to you
4wd box chocolate....bull shit....standard is 220bhp...and the limit is 350-380bhp...so a not a shy limit i guess..

it can take less then the 2wd box....only because of the traction a 4wd has...it slip less easy...
i've been through 4 new boxes and 5 rebuilds in the time i had my 4wd tt estatesome lasted a whole day with some sprinting action (cooked 2 in the space of 2 revs 1/4 mile and 0-60 days) and one lasted a whole 23 miles before giving up the ghost (and that was new from ford who said they wern't going to warranty it because it wasn't fitted to a normal car)

chocolate boxes they might not be, but i know plenty of people who keep breaking them, and some only put 236 brake through them
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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possible...im on stage 3 so 300+ and this is my 2nd box...only because of the miles...and i could get a fresh one for cheap

you can wreck everything if you drive like you stole it...also when standard...and only because of the traction a 4wd has...

if this gonna be with 2wd is will spin....

ask smith how long it took him to wreck his box...and after how much sprints...and the box transmission was shotpeened...nothing more..

so chocolate...no....weaker yes....
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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i no of a few people running 370 ish bhp with 4x4 s get track used all the time very good boxes if your not doing 1/4 and 0 to 60s
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 08:59 AM
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this is already my 6th box mates , can't stop blowing them at the strip
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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stop doing 1/4 miles then lol
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by diabolic
this is already my 6th box mates , can't stop blowing them at the strip
strange ha...with 400+bhp...
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by diabolic
this is already my 6th box mates , can't stop blowing them at the strip
You must have more money than sense then IMO
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Old Jun 10, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wimwerf
possible...im on stage 3 so 300+ and this is my 2nd box...only because of the miles...and i could get a fresh one for cheap

you can wreck everything if you drive like you stole it...also when standard...and only because of the traction a 4wd has...

if this gonna be with 2wd is will spin....

ask smith how long it took him to wreck his box...and after how much sprints...and the box transmission was shotpeened...nothing more..

so chocolate...no....weaker yes....
dropped the car off because the box was shot
picked it up the next day (saturday)
went from picking it up (up by hanger lane), round the north circ, and up the M1
got to scratchwood services amd smoke everywhere because it's shat itself as it went up the hill, in 5th, at about 70 mph (ok, so i put the foot down but i was still in fifth)
so thats the one thats just crap
there was another one i broke at alconbury (i've even got the caption somewhere because it was printed in the mag ) along the lines of "this 4x4 sierra went home with just 1st and 5th gears" so it lasted a good 12 hard HARD launches up the runway, none of this softly softly, 5k and side stepping the clutch saw it run out of first gear quicker than i could snatch second

i think the problem with me though is that it was a V6 twin turbo, and i was so used to driving it around on just over idle the box couldn't take it, sometimes i could catch it when it was just leting go and a new clutch and input shaft seal would solve it, but other times it was sending bits left right and centre out from underneath

it's a good strong standard power box, and it'll do a bit when it's got a bit more poke going throgh it, but you reach a certain level and then it just won't handle the power no matter how gently you try to use it, i killed on on the way to crawley when i went to show the punto GT that he couldn't keep up (still showed him even though the clutch was slipping like a crap torvil and dean )
some people though don't have a problem with them, just luck of the draw i guess
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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i think this is why my gearboxes give up and tells me to fuck myself



the rims are different because these are toyo semi-slicks
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Old Jun 11, 2006 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by diabolic
i think this is why my gearboxes give up and tells me to fuck myself



the rims are different because these are toyo semi-slicks
other than the hard launch on slicks, i can't see why your box shouldn't last for hours
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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As i said on MSN dude....2WD deffoooo!!!

Would be quite easy to convert ur car to 2wd aswell m8...so u wouldnt even have to sell your car.
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 12:58 PM
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i keep doing 4x4 boxes and im pished off with it!
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
i keep doing 4x4 boxes and im pished off with it!
..then buy one good box (with fixit in it) instead of braking all the other boxes..
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Old Jun 12, 2006 | 01:29 PM
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i seem to have a knack of killing bearings ,not the gears.... fixit has the same bearings doesnt it? and then theres the transfer box.....
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
i seem to have a knack of killing bearings ,not the gears.... fixit has the same bearings doesnt it? and then theres the transfer box.....
wel..i dont here mike r about his gearbox...and he has 477bhp...and lots off torque...
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Go 3 Door
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doug sterring has a up ratted box in his escos does ok for 570 bhp he said it would be a mint box for a 400 bhp car
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Why not have both and be greedy.
I do, thanks to classic car insurance
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2wd is the only way to go steer from the rear
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Old Jun 13, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jason_nike
Why not have both and be greedy.
I do, thanks to classic car insurance
i wish i could afford the both of them! but it already is hell with the cos and a bmw as a daily car
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