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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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well ive just bought my first air rifle off my mate, have wanted one for years as ive always been on "hunting" an fishing trips with my cousin since i was young, so just wonderd who else has one an what do they use it for?

i live near alot of woods an farmland an already have permission to shoot on this land, dont quite fancy joining a gun club as i know ill never go once ive payed for the membership.

So any info that might be of use to me is great,

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i got an air arms 410, just it for vermin shooting up the girls house, and genral target shooting
i find it a good way or relaxing sometimes
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Don't you need a licence now for soft air guns and replica's ?
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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No. You need a licence for Air cartridge pistols as I understand it, but the classification of the sub 12 ftlb rifle of sub 6ftlb pistol remains unchanged.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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Don't you need a licence now for soft air guns and replica's ?
Ah, just found the answer to my question.....

Airguns do not require a licence unless they are over the UK legal limit of 12ft.lbs muzzle energy for rifles and 6 ft.lbs muzzle energy for pistols. Providing you are within the age requirements for ownership listed below almost anybody can own one.
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no you dont need a licence for air rifles theres a copy of the rules an laws here

Safety

Airguns can, in the wrong hands, be lethal. However, by following a set of simple,commonsense safety rules, you can ensure that you are never the cause of an accident.

• Always assume your gun is loaded. You´d be amazed how many accidents have happened with guns their owners 'knew' were unloaded.

• Never point your gun at another person.

• Never carry a loaded air weapon in a public place and when you are carrying your gun in public, keep it fastened securely away in a gunslip or case.

• Never load your gun until you are ready to shoot.

• Never fire your gun unless you are certain the shot will be a safe one. This means checking there are no other people nearby who might be endangered by the shot and ensuring there is a suitable backstop to catch pellets and prevent ricochets.

• When at a shoot, never let your gun out of your sight.

• Never let young children near your gun unsupervised.

• Never touch anyone else´s gun unless you have permission.

• After using your gun, make sure it is unloaded and store it in a secure place to which children cannot gain access. Store ammunition in a separate secure place.




Getting Started

Air weapons are mainly sold from firearms dealerships and outdoor sports shops.

Air rifles with muzzle energies of less than twelve foot pounds (16.3 joules) and air pistols with muzzle energies of less than six foot pounds (8.15 joules) can be bought by any person aged seventeen years or more.

However, if you want an air rifle with a muzzle energy greater than twelve foot pounds, you must first obtain a firearm certificate from your local police firearms licensing department. Air pistols with muzzle energies greater than six foot pounds or air pistols and air rifles which use the self contained gas cartridge system are prohibited weapons which may only be acquired with the authority of the Secretary of State. If you are in any doubt, seek advice from your local police firearms licensing department.

Having bought your gun, you can use it for a number of purposes including target

shooting, vermin control and hunting small ground game. However, if you have never

shot before, you would be well advised to go to a shooting club with an airgun section

and learn from a qualified instructor how to handle your gun safely and responsibly and

become an accurate shot. You may find that target shooting provides all the challenge you need or you may want to move on to shooting live quarry.

If you do move on to live quarry shooting you must be careful only to shoot on private

property over which you have permission to shoot. Provided you follow the safety rules

contained in this leaflet, you will be able to shoot safely and enjoyably even on quite

small pieces of ground.



Airguns and the law

Although air weapons, with very few exceptions as outlined above, are not required to be kept on a firearm certificate, they are still classed as firearms and fall under the control of the firearms legislation.

As an airgun shooter, you must make sure that you know the law and keep within it. If

you don´t, you could find yourself in court facing charges with sanctions ranging from

heavy fines right up to life imprisonment. The following is a list of the laws by which you

must abide and you might be surprised at just how long it is.

• It is an offence to sell or make a gift of an air weapon to a person under seventeen

years of age.

• It is an offence for anyone under seventeen to carry an air weapon unless -

they are under the supervision of a person aged twenty one or more or

they are on private land and have permission from the occupier or

they are shooting as a member of an approved club or

they are shooting at a shooting gallery for miniature rifles.


• It is an offence for a person under seventeen shooting unsupervised on private land to allow any pellets to cross the boundaries of the property.

• It is an offence for any person, regardless of age, to be in possession of an air weapon in a public place without a reasonable excuse. A reasonable excuse might be carrying a gun to and from a target shooting club or to and from land on which you have permission to shoot. It would also include taking a gun to and from a gunsmith for repair or service or taking a new gun home from the dealer.

• It is an offence to trespass with an air weapon, be that in a building or on land.

• It is an offence to have an air weapon if you are a person prohibited from possessing a

firearm by section 21 of the 1968 Act. This section prohibits anyone who has been

sentenced to a custodial sentence of between three months and three years from

possessing an air weapon or other firearm for five years from the date of release.

Anyone sentenced to three years or more is prohibited for life.

• It is an offence to fire your gun within fifty feet (fifteen metres) of the centre of a public

road in such a way as to endanger or impede any road user.

• It is an offence to shoot protected wild birds or animals. When live quarry shooting,

it is your responsibility to make sure that you only shoot legal quarry.

• It is an offence to shoot pet animals. Besides being abhorrent to most people, this is, above all others, the offence that gives all air weapon shooters a bad name.

• It is an offence to have an air weapon with intent to damage property.

• It is an offence to have an air weapon with intent to endanger life.



This may seem a long and onerous list, but it is all no more than common sense. If you use your gun safely and responsibly, you will be in no danger of committing an offence.



In Conclusion

You should always remember that airguns are capable of inflicting severe injuries and even of killing people.

Irresponsible owners have given airgun shooters a bad name by breaking windows,

shooting pets and protected wild birds and even sniping at people. You can do your bit

to help change this perception by using your gun in a way that demonstrates that air

weapon shooters are, in the main, responsible people who pose no threat to anyone. Always follow the guidelines set out in this information




GARETH T


Ye ive always found it chill you out, might try pick it up tonight instead an head over to my mates,

He stays in the little cottage on the right of this pic.....



So hopefully see a few rabits,

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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i used to use mine for shooting people waiting for a bus,,,,,,,, was a right laugh but then i got carried away and showing off and decided to shoot a police car,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, 7 times


yes i got nicked for possetion of a firearm

that was when i was 15,,,,,,, the fucking bruises we got by shooting eash other,,,,,,,,, ive still got me rifle though,,,,,,,,, by gun and catapult got taken off me to be destroyed when the old bill caught me


i should NEVER have sold my crossbow either,,,,,,,, but aiming at trees aint as must fun as you think
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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theres loads of rabbits on my girlfriends land,,, but she dont like me shooting them
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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i've got an air rifle, can't remember what its called, use it for getting the starling nesting in our roof noisy buggers, shooting magpies + crows and the odd rat if we see it.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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lol ive shot the rifle im buying a few times, dont think its to powerfull but will do for now, havent got a clue whats its called either, what sort of prices is it for pellets last time i bought them it was about a 5er for a orange tub thisis going back a few years tho?

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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if its a good gun,.,,, buy nce pellets mate
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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its only a cheep thing, an i couldnt wait till sat so going to get it now,

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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:54 AM
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Springer or precharged? Post up a pic. And buy decent pellets, like Gareth said.

GARETH T Air arms Always wanted one of their prechargeds, but never wanted to sell a kidney.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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i shoot a a local tip ,knock a few rat's out,did get carried away with it
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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ok just got the gun an went to get pellets, got .22's an they were a bit tight so went for the .177 an these fall right through.... whats the story lol.

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Originally Posted by Mark B
ok just got the gun an went to get pellets, got .22's an they were a bit tight so went for the .177 an these fall right through.... whats the story lol.

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Theres 5.5 and 5.6 mm .22's m8, try the 5.5's (im guessing you bought 5.6's?). Still odd though, shouldnt make much odd's to the fit.

This thread just inspired me to get my rifle out. Been shooting ketchup bottles and hanging selotaped pennies in the garden
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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If .177s fell through, its a .22. Dont worry if its a tight fit in the barrel, different pellets are made with different tolerances. The most accurate ones are the tightest fitting, in my experience.
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I would have had a TX, but Im a skinny bugger, so wanted a lighter rifle. Both my mates have had gas ram BSA lightnings, which are great rifles, but Ive got meself a .22 Webley Tomahawk.
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Wish I bloody knew mate. Friend has a 2 acre plot, which has rabbits, but its just open land, there is no point in hunting them, so we dont. Plus, they only just recovered from a mxymatosis outbreak. I havent even tried getting anywhere else to shoot, wouldnt know where to start. My rifle only has a squirrel and 2 woodpigeon to its name.
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 03:29 PM
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well it does take .22 after 3 trips to the shop i finally got the right ones, lol

Went in first bought the .22 then went home about 15miles away thought they were a bit tight so went back got the .177's an they fell through only to have to travel back to swap them back for the .22's again lol its still a tight fit but heading along to my mates later to test it out,

Will get pix when im at his, its not anything compared to the guns shown as i said just summint cheep that i can have a chilled afternoon out with, then if i take my fancy maybe move onto some of the better guns, think someone asked if it was a spring or caniser well its one of those spring loaded ones,

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I just love guns,you start with airguns and thenprogress to big boy tackle
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did u eat that thing after you killed it?

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I just love guns,you start with airguns and thenprogress to big boy tackle
god u must be so proud
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Originally Posted by Mark B
did u eat that thing after you killed it?

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we did actually wilderbeast steak is superb
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I just love guns,you start with airguns and thenprogress to big boy tackle
god u must be so proud
I was very proud,so was the African tribe which it fed for a month,at least think logically before you post matey
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Obviously this would be the ultimate progression, but I'll probably never have the cash to do it properly with the right kit etc.

Dont suppose you know any land around here I could try for shooting do you Pete?[/quote]
I have a lot of local land but its very difficult to get,I may take you out for the odd night of you like,infact Iam of to some of my land in Grantham this evening
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Its not like wildebeest are endangered either. If they were, that would be a different matter. I really dislike people who eat meat but are anti-shooting. They are fine for animals to be shot to feed them, but when they are confronted with the reality of it they get all squeamish. They will have others do for them what they wont do themselves.
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did u eat that thing after you killed it?

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we did actually wilderbeast steak is superb
My next question was going to be how did it taste? im not a animal rights protester so was just wondering what you did with it afterwards,

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Originally Posted by Mark B
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did u eat that thing after you killed it?

MB.
we did actually wilderbeast steak is superb
My next question was going to be how did it taste? im not a animal rights protester so was just wondering what you did with it afterwards,

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In Africa theres 2 types of hunting,trophy hunting which is very expensive and which the best quality animal is shot which the income for doing this keep the farm in business amd his workers paid plus the goverment takes its cut,the 2nd is cull hunting for meat which is another main sourse of food for the villages and the farmers,nothing is wasted
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These are the guns that i have. some of the pistols are 9mm blank firers, which come out to play on fireworks night, or if a local knob gets caught breaking into cars!

I also have my firearms ticket for my .22 rimfire, which cost me the princely sum of Ł35 , the scope cost Ł40 for it.

I also teach the No8 Enfield service weapon that the Cadet Forces use on the barrack ranges, and can conduct weapon handling test to allow youngsters to shoot these weapons.

I only hope by teaching the younger ones about gun safety , they wil behave in a manner that is appropriate and not to clowwn about with them as the actions of a few mindless idiots spoil it for the majority of law abiding shooters

Pete , well done on getting the beast, I would love to do this one day , must of been a great experience
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Dont they weight about 4lbs scoped or something ridiculous like that?

ronf42, is that a Gamo PT45 glaring at us on your pistol shelf?
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I bout it 2nd hand for Ł450. For my cash i got

The gun , left handed 8 shot action ,

quickfill scilencer

6 magazines ,

3-9x40 simmons scope

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the y guy i bought it from paid around Ł900 for it o
in 2000.
The gun got stolen from my house a few years ago, but as it was left handed action they couldnt sell it on , ~I got my gun back through some contacts and got Ł500 from the house insurance as it was sporting goods!

As for weight, it is as light as anything , really good gun to shoot, probably get around 30 or so full power shots , cant remeber too much as I havn't been out with it for a good year or so now
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Dont they weight about 4lbs scoped or something ridiculous like that?

ronf42, is that a Gamo PT45 glaring at us on your pistol shelf?

Aye , it is nice and light , great for trecking in the feilds with.

Well spotted on the Gamo, I rubbed down the blueing off the side and polished it up a tad
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raptor lighthunter is my fav gun
i would of had one, if keens had one in stock,,, settled with the 410 though
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That was the first thing I ever shot, as a friend of mine had, and still has one. I got myself a Webley Nemesis, and I think there is a load of fun to be had with long barreled pistols like them.
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Some wicked guns there boys!


had a BIG obsession with firearms for quite a while, had loads of stuff but sold pretty much all of it!

PETE- Fairplay mate
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