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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:36 PM
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just watched a program on dvd about him........ there are some very strange things surroundindg his so called death. do any of you have opinions on this??????? do you think he could have faked his own death????
he seemed to be a lot more intelligent than most people think?????? and his lyrics are not DATED like other artists from that time
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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Go on Google - there are a few books written surrounding this and they are VERY interesting indeed.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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I'm actually quite a big fan ... his lyrics are very very clever albeit quite crude

When I read about all the things he had done / gotten up to in his life I was very suprised.

Did the program you saw on DVD mention the 7 Day Theory? Probably all a load of bollocks but quite odd
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tell me about it..............its got me thinking.for example,when he changed his name to makaveli for a period,this was because he had been following and old person he had be reading about while he was in prison!!! the person he had been readin about was called macalavelli who was a MAN WHO MANY MANY YEARS AGO FAKED HIS OWN DEATH TO ESCAPE HIS ENEMIES!!!!!!!!!!! And on the album cover (Makaveli) which was released before his death,it had a pic of 2pac on the cross with 7 bullet holes in his body. HE WAS APPARENTLY SHOT 7 TIMES WHEN HE DIED!!!!!!!!! AND DIED 7 DAYS AFTER THE SHOOTING! work that one out
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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is that the 2 pac V's biggie DVD ??
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:58 PM
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its all comedy like their is a video of tupac wearing trainers that werent released yet and how have they made tracks that are new with lyrics he had allready recorded and all that!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 10:55 PM
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ITs always been suspicious but realistically if it was true it would have been leaked by now. Its the entertainment industry remember! I cant see it having lasted this long.

Only found our recently that apparently 2pac left something like 5 album's worth of lyrics/recordings/songs. Thats why so much has been released when hes dead.

I prefer Biggie's lyrics personally.
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its really interesting, when i started reading about it on the net i ended up coming home every night after work for ages just logging on and seeing what i could find about it. Theres so many coincidences and this 7 day theory, the trainers..............i heard in one of his videos theres something like a new shape vw beetle in it before theyd even been made, something along those lines anyway, ive never actually seen it.

I dont see why he couldnt fake it, as for the mortuary picture how easy would that be to set up in hollywood. and i dont think he'd ever come back anyway. how could they not find who killed him in a city thats in the middle of a desert. loads of weird things and i doubt we'l ever know the truth either way.

as tupac once said, biggie was a fat, cross eyed, downs syndrome crack baby.........i think he was shit and made famous from tupacs table scraps.
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:47 PM
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he was agreat deal more intelligent than ever got credit for, but by the end was loosing the plot!
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Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Can't have been that intelligent to let his life get so fucked up that he puts himself into a situation where he gets gunned down.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:06 AM
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Can't have been that intelligent to let his life get so fucked up that he puts himself into a situation where he gets gunned down.


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So was his body never found?
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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I'm not sure about this. If he was going to fake his own death to escape the limelight, then why leave so many clues? If he'd been planning it that long, why fuck up so blatently?

I'd have thought it was more likely that the music industry chaps have exploited a few bits for their own ends...
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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The fuckers living it up with Lord Lucan and Robert Maxwell.

I never was a big fan, but the bits ive read i reckon he's faked it and teased everyone to keep guessing 'is he, aint he'
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:21 AM
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Must admit, it's interesting... Andy Kaufman's another one that could have (and would have) done it.

And Bobby was offed by Mossad, deffo. Lesson #1. Don't fuck with the Israeli's
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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If he had lived he wouldve had a great rap career and probrably wouldve become a legend like Dr Dre etc Why would he fake his own death when he had so much more to give?

Never been the same since he died

Tupac = Legend
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:35 AM
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The man is dead for fucks sake, no ifs and buts or maybes... hes deed.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_Belfast
The man is dead for fucks sake, no ifs and buts or maybes... hes deed.
Deed
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:37 AM
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i used to go on a hiphop forum where there was a section dedicated to this with proper hardcore believers everyday someone found a new clue or "sign" and some proper arguments would start as wel, was proper good entertainment, Whatever the truth tho, someone making a mint out of his legend, i mean how many albums can a dead man release ffs
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 05:51 AM
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Tupac is a legend but he is dead and should be left 2 rest in peace
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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ive got tupac resurection,the book,"the killing of tupac shakur and 1971-1996 tupac shakur book + 4 albums.propa good tunes!!!all from 1991 to 1996.died on thursday 14th september 4.03pm was shot on the 7th at 11.15pm was born 25th july 1971 in clinton cerectional facility with his mom.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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theres a pic of the autopsy on google if you look and in this book i have ,its horrible i hate seeing it when i dont want to.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Benni
So was his body never found?
His body never found? He was taken to hospital and when he died he was cremated.

As for him not being dead. Well you can think what you like but I don't think he faked his death.


i mean how many albums can a dead man release ffs
he had loads of songs. He would just rap loads of songs and then worry about the final mixing later on hence why he had so much material which has been put in to albums after he died. The latest albums take the piss a bit with 50 cent etc being on it tho
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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well not that long ago he got together with elton and released a song.

so maybe hes living in eltons cellar and only comes out at night when ol elton says "bring out the gimp"

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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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here are 2 pics, 1 black and white, 1 colour, they are from his autopsy, make your own mind up. the reason ive posted the links rather than the photo's is they are quite graphic.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...pac-shakur.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d1...opsycolour.jpg
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:31 AM
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he was a bit like prince when it came to making tunes (thats the reason prince went all squiggly due to him signing a reacord deal for 7 albums or somehting and the record company thinking they've got him for the next few years and then prince coughing up 7 albums worth of material 2 weeks later) and had a huge amount of tunes waiting to be sorted

the strangest thing about the whole incident is that he was shot on the strip at las vegas after a tyson fight, with there being absolutly millions of peole watching, and no one has yet id'd the shooter

with biggie it was him a a car and getting done in a driveby

his tunes are still influencing a lot of new music though, 50 c and the game use little bits of his lyrics in some of their tunes, most noticably the one about "brenda's still throwing babies in the garbage" on love it or hate it

2pac = legend before his time
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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Tupac was done in a driveby aswell though
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Followed Tupac for nearly 10 years, massively intelligent guy, shame about his death still to this day!

R.I.P

P.s Is it 'Ressurection' you were watching? Quality vid!
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go on to tupac.com and have a look at the video looks very much like pac and if u listen close u can hear 1 of the outlawz say hide pac
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http://www.tupacfans.com/alive_video.php
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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He's well dead unfortunatly.

RIP.
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that aint tupac,tupac woudnt be wearin that and wouldnt be so quiet he would be sayin get that fukin camera out of my ace before i break your head or somethin.and where was it???and why wasnt the camera quality good??
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was supposed tae be outside studio in LA a thought that to pac would huv be raisin hell just a gd lookalike aye think just caught my attention wen heard em say hide pac at the end
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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If I was faking my own death I'd chose a more respectable way to go. Like being shagged to death by supermodels or something.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 01:20 PM
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not another conspiracy theory,he was a blck rapper from slums,not president of the usa
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Originally Posted by GraphiteGray
If he had lived he wouldve had a great rap career and probrably wouldve become a legend like Dr Dre etc Why would he fake his own death when he had so much more to give?

Tupac = Legend
Your kidding right!?

Tupac was and still is a far greater Rap Artist than Dr Dre could ever wish to be and IMO IS THE greatest rapper ever! I don't dislike Dre but he is definately not on par with tupac and i'm afraid he never will be!

Originally Posted by glasgax2
go on to tupac.com and have a look at the video looks very much like pac and if u listen close u can hear 1 of the outlawz say hide pac
Loads of people probably look like him mate, if I came on here saying i'd seen BIG would you believe that too!?

Originally Posted by sapphirecossie
that aint tupac,tupac woudnt be wearin that and wouldnt be so quiet he would be sayin get that fukin camera out of my ace before i break your head or somethin.and where was it???and why wasnt the camera quality good??
Mate, yes he was a thug but he didn't spend 100% of his time fuckin people up now did he!
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This comes from Mike Frankel: If you rearrange the letters in the album title "Makaveli The Don Killuminati The 7Day Theory" You can make the sentence "Ok on tha 7th u think I'm dead yet I'm really alive". Mike explains "7th meaning the 7th day after he was shot, he supposedly died but is really alive." That's quite amazing, try it for yourself.
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If he is alive and made an appearance, my bollocks would tingle. Everything points to him still being alive but probably doubtful. We'll see. He seems to like 7 a lot so 2007?
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