Any body building people/dieticians..........
 

What are the affects of alcohol on muscle growth if any??

As in.....

I'm going to the gym later to work my chest, now, if i decide to buy 6 cans of stella on the way home will drinkin them affect/hinder muscle growth??

Hope this isn't a stupid question, i was just wondering :D

Not a stupid question at all... in fact its a much better question than "Babies names"! :cry:

Its bad is all you need to know. Especially if you chin all 6 :cry: :cry:

Dorian Yates used to have one glass of wine a year :roll: :cry: :cry:

Answer=Yes

You have 2 options as I see it.

Option 1. Go to Gym and then feed yourself with quality protein and carbs to build muscle.....or

Option 2. Sod the gym and get pissed!

someone im sure will correct me if im wrong but when you drink your body concentrates on sorting out your liver and not building muscle. I always find if I get pissed I cant eat properly the next day and look flat as fuck.
I've been t-total for over a month now as whats the point in spending money on protein, supplements, and gym membership to lose it all by getting pissed, I've deffo made much more progress now i'm not drinking :top:

I would like to see a decent weight training and fitness topic on this forum as its something i AM DEFINATELY getting back into.

I think Mr Eggleton would be a good person to train us all. :cool:

Hmm this will be interesting. I cant put weight/muscle on to save my life and whats worse i swear i am getting a beer belly now :cry: :cry:

fook exercise if u cant get pissed :top:

Mike

IMO Going to the gym then drinking is better than just drinking - at least you will have burned some calories before you reload from the beer.

In general it wont change the muscle growth, it will just add sugar & fat you dont really want when trying to be the body beautiful"

You might find your increased metabolism rate will process it into your system quicker !!

I take it your not using any enhancers ?

Andy, are you eating enough? im aiming for 5/6 meals a day plus 3 protein shakes.

alcohol increases oestrogen and decreases testosterone, im sure you can all work out this isn't a good thing.

if you're going to get pissed up then take 2 days off before and after and try and keep the diet clean as poss to limit any damage!
Obviously if you're just 'keeping fit' then fuck it who cares, its only if you're taking things to the next level you need concern yourself imo

that should be enough to put you off, plus all of those empty simple carbs in beer, just have a drink at the weekend or something when you go out?

Mega calories in alcoholic drinks.

Not a good option.

Remember, breakfast is the most important meal of the day, so a bowl of cereal, glass of orange juice and a pear would set you up for the day.

Lunch time, look into a tuna, or chicken salad, low fat crisps(french fries) and a bottle of flavoured water.

Once finished in the gym then a high protein body intake is essential, Ie, a supplement or grilled chicken, etc. (not 6 cans of fosters)

A good evening meal could consist of, Grilled chicken breast, boiled potatoes, peas and carrots, and a low fat yoghurt for pudding.

Drink plenty of water throughout the day so as to not feel hungry and keep your body system functioning properly.

This is what I am doing at the moment and I have lost 2 stone in 4 months and put on some nive weight on my arms, shoulders, and lost weight round my belly.

Ive got a bloody personal trainer writing me a programme tonight.... :eek: im dreading it :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

if you are finishing the gym then why go out and get 6 cans. :cry:

are you just going to go home and drink them with you kebab or pizza Mike. :cry:

Stop drinking in the house and just drink on nights out. :top:

i used to drink all the time when weightlifting and i still gained a stone of muscle in 6 months,, my mate didnt drink and he wasnt getting any bigger from not drinking,,its your diet that really matters as u need the protein to replenish your muscles and build them back up again,,lots of fish and chickens a winner :top:

everyones different though........... :blabla:

I agree mate, started back a couple of months ago. Would be intresting to see other peoples views on supplements,steroids,hints and tips etc.

A stone in six months :eek: you must of had more holes in ya body than a second hand dart board :blabla:

no pain no gain, :blabla:cheeky bugger ,i wouldnt touch steroids,,they mess you up big time and fook with your body and mind........

turbo7

no harm intended mate, just that 1 stone is a lot of muscle mass in 6 month, but like you say no pain no gain. A mate of mine as been on them 2 years on n off, he's a different bloke :hammer:

Strangely enough, I have less self discipline to get fit, then to go on the wagon :?

I'd love to lose a good few stone, just need a bit of encouragement lol ;)

Getting the beer's in takes less encouragement then curry to a pisshead :(

radiant red i used to do 2 hrs everynight apart from here and there when i need a break,,and i kickbox 5 nights a week oh and i have to dig great big holes for a living with my shovel and hands so a stone aint alot really :banana:

that told you :cry: :cry: :blabla: :blabla: :blabla: :blabla:

Good idea, how about a separate sub forum on passionford for fitness/sports type stuff must be quite a few interested in this?

:top: :clap:

defo! when ive sorted me shoulder i'll be back into it :top: :top:

my body is a temple.......of doom and the size of one :cry:

Whooo just got back from the gym Grrrrrr i look massive :cool:

Shame that in an hours time i'll be tiny again :cry:

Some really good advice guys thanks fot that :clap:

I'm not on roids or anythin, just trying to eat properly and regulary, want my arms to be 16" by christmas, i know that will be tiny compared to some peeps on here but thats my goal :D

Going back to eating... i understand its best not to eat just before training because there will be a conflict in the body of where to send the blood (will send to the stomach instead of the muscle's being trained) but how soon after training should eat? how long do you give your body to natually desperce of the blood that has been "pumped" into the muscle group you've been working?

I used to have a protein drink the minute i walked through the door but it was making me feel very tired so i now give it an hour or so before i eat after the gym.

Which is the best way? Or does it just not matter :cry:

I find that once ive done me hour or so, i have a chillout in the pool and steam room this allows things to relax and blood to sort itself out so time i get home bout 90 mins after i'll eat but a protein drink before anything else

You should have a protein drink within the half an hour window after you have finished in the gym for maximum gains so i've been told.

i usually eat alot in the mornings and a couple of hours before the gym that way your body has food to burn while you are working out,, usually eat a tin of tuna before i go to bed as well so my muscles get replenished for the next day,,the best way is your way mate try different things and see what works..stick with it though as you will feel the best you ever have,,,good luck bud :D :D

I usually have a meal about 2 hours before the gym then a protein shake 45 mins to an hour before. You deffo need to have a shake asap when you come out the gym. 2 reasons, 1 your body will be crying for the protein, 2 your blood is pumping to the parts you've just trained so the protein will be taken quickly to those parts. I have my shake as soon as I get home then afterwards cool my dinner..

Since ive been on this new shift system at wotk i havent drunk as much...

Been going to the gym more and im noticing a difference :top:

Not long got back tonight and was doing arms

Love it and am staying with it :D


Just a shame im on the piss this weekend :cry: :top: :cry:

Some really good info there!!!

Thanks a lot guys :clap: :top: :clap: :top: :clap:

I'll let u know if i get my 16" by christmas!!! :D

good luck with the training mike hope all goes well mate

Cheers matey, thanks again :top:

I'd be happy to contribute/moderate a fitness section. I've been bodybuilding/weight trainings for over 12 years now and have pretty much tried everything :cry: And what I haven't tried I've seen someone who has ;)

I personally don't have anything at least an hour before I train, especially on leg day!. I usually have the second half of my protein drink about 3 and train about 5pm. Dinner is ready when i get home which is always poultry or fish based. Occasionally we have beef (not so as much as I used to).

As stated a couple of times above, there is a window of about 60-90mins after you train where your muscles are crying out for the nutrients you've just battered out of them. Protein is good as it helps repair the muscle but get some good carbs in there too to replace the gylcogen(energy).

If people can shout out topics they'd like to cover I don't mind writing my thoughts, be it routines, diet or weight gain.

It is very personalised as someone has mentioned. My body type is endo-meso morph. This has nothing to do with plasticine :cry:

Ectomorph - naturally thin(not necessarily skinny) and lanky people - find it hard to put on weight.

Endomorph - quite a big frame and can put on weight easily as well as get fat easily.

Mesomorph - Lucky fuckers. This is the body type that responds well to training, naturally quite lean.

I'm between endo and meso. My body responds well to training but I can pile on the pounds if I am not careful. Any advice will be based on my experience of being this body type. Others who have other body types will have just as valid advice for their body type.

The beauty of this sport is that there is so much to learn as you go along. The hard part is finding what works for you.

One of the key things for me though is CONSISTENCY. You've got to do all the right things ALL of the time. Missing workouts and letting your diet go over the weekend are prime examples.

Anyway. I best do some work.

Paul.

[quote="JAP CRAP"] I always find if I get pissed I cant eat properly the next day and look flat as fuck.
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But do you find that two days later you look quite good ;) I find that the dehydrating aspect of booze drains me of water. If I get pissed on a saturday, monday at the gym I look pretty good :cry: :cry:

PS I am not advocating boozing :cry: :cry:

Paul, and everyone else i guess, i am seriously VERY interested in this topic right now and would personally like to get good advice about the following:

Specific to me:
I am around 2 stone overweight and wish to drop that weight. Ive done the atkins successfully many many times over the years but that still leaves me with no tone whatsoever. I want to know how to drop it more naturally but at the same time build some muscle and lots more tone.

Currently i am doing the following every morning & night:

Situps:
25 situps
(Dont laugh.. this hurts after doing none for 20yrs, but i started at 5 :oops: )

Each arm with 5kg dumbell
15 curls with upper arm flat to body.
15 Arm raised vertical then lower weight to below head backwards.
15 lifts to chest with one knee on bench and chest/head facing floor.
10 5kg bell in each hand. Raise to horizontal sideways & slowly lower.
10 as above but arms forwards.

Barbell.
15 bench presses with 35kilo.


Legs:
10 squats with bar on shoulders but only 15 kilo
15 leg curls lying on bench with 20kilo.

I do all the above for 3 days and then have one day off unless a certain aspect hurts badly in which case i will leave that part alone for a day.

All weights are approximate as im sat here trying to visualise what weights are on each peice of kit i use. Ive also just bought one of those bull worker type things so may add those in from tonight.

Most days i aim to take the dog for a fast walk for 30mins or so as well, but anything else im really short of motivation for as i have to train alone.

Any tips to improve my current schedule with the equipment i have?