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morg65 09-09-2015 10:10 PM

130ps or 105ps.?
 
Hi guys and thanks for the welcome.
I recently bought a mint 1992 MK5 Escort Cabriolet first registered in April 1992..
She moondust silver and on a J plate. She is the xr3i 1.8 16 valve.
All points to the 130ps version.Sticker on air intake says 130ps but that isn't a convincing way of being sure. Stickers can be changed.
has the MX75 gearbox with the need to pop up a ring to select reverse.
I first thought there was a problem with reverse and then felt like an idiot hehe when I realised I had to lift up the ring to select.
My problem is, I bought her and was told she is the 130ps version. But my understanding is that the 130 had disc brakes all round. On my cabriolet looks very like drums on the rear although I haven't taken a wheel off to confirm
Maybe only the 130 XR3i hatchbacks and not the Cabriolets had discs all round.? Any advice would be great. Thanks a bunch.
Morg.:grin:

cossiestu 09-09-2015 10:25 PM

I had a 93 1.8si 130ps Cab, with MTX75 box, that had rear discs....

I think (and I may be completely wrong?!) the main difference, engine wise is the 130's have a bigger/different throttle body and different cams?

cos 4x4 10-09-2015 05:05 AM

Hi to identify if it's 105 of 130 you need go check the back of the inlet manifold if it's 130 if should have HO stamped on the inlet pipe closet to the drivers wing. Should have reAr disc brakes as well but they have an incorporated drum brake for the handbrake plus an mtx box. Also check code on ecu if it's 2fcd then it's a 105. Be aware that some 105 cars came with an mtx box and some have a bc box

STeve 10-09-2015 05:52 AM

alloy inlet on a 130 faces straight over the rocker with 90d bend to the right the normal versions have skinny air intake pipes and some sweep accross edge of rocker cover at 45d, should a,lso have wing back seats

morg65 10-09-2015 08:33 AM

Thanks guys. Can I see the "HO" stamp on the rear of the inlet without taking it off.? Is it obvious.? It has a full leather interior with wing back seats. And its not the SI model its the XR3i which I believe was only made in 1992 for less than a year and then replaced by the SI. Car was originally based in the Isle of Wight for most of its life. Just wondering if the spec may have been different.

chris cdti 10-09-2015 12:22 PM

I'm sure the ones with ABS has rear discs

STeve 10-09-2015 12:33 PM

and normally open rear qtr windows same as the cossie as well as upper front and lower front strut baces, I had a mk6 130 spec cabby that had rear discs chris

morg65 10-09-2015 12:42 PM

Thanks guys. I suppose the only way to be sure is to check out the rear of the inlet to see if it says "HO"
How would I know if it has ABS.? It doesn't have a light on the dash. My previous MK5 had a yellow light that came on when the ignition was turned and the went off with a click a few seconds later. So is it possible if it doesnt have ABS then maybe drums on the rear.? Must say is there a huge difference in power between the two anyway.? She seems plenty fast for me anyway.

STeve 10-09-2015 01:18 PM

abs with drums its normal, its when it has discs at the rear it only has abs on fronts like what they do on the rs2000s

morg65 10-09-2015 02:57 PM

Thanks again 1-PD.
Will check it out...I am concerned because I have ordered a complete stock exhaust for her. She had a really loud boy racer pipe on her and at 50 yo its embarrassing hehe.
I am hoping that the parts between the 105 and 130 are interchangeable...In short..Will the exhaust I ordered for the 130 spec be ok if she turns out to be a 105.?
Thanks again.
Morg.

STeve 10-09-2015 03:59 PM

the cat is different but from catback it should be the same

cos 4x4 10-09-2015 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by morg65 (Post 6622841)
Thanks again 1-PD.
Will check it out...I am concerned because I have ordered a complete stock exhaust for her. She had a really loud boy racer pipe on her and at 50 yo its embarrassing hehe.
I am hoping that the parts between the 105 and 130 are interchangeable...In short..Will the exhaust I ordered for the 130 spec be ok if she turns out to be a 105.?
Thanks again.
Morg.

Have been breaking these for the past couple of years. No difference in cats and exhaust so nothing to worry about. Abs was an option and to tell if you have it you will have a separate ecu type module in the scuttle tray drivers side right behind the engine and a separate block under the brake servo. All 130 cars come with rear disc and drum brake

morg65 11-09-2015 11:14 AM

Thanks a million guys for all your advice.
Yesterday I checked the rear of the inlet manifold and cam across " SO" so there ya go. She seems to be a 105. To be honest I wouldnt have known the difference in power. As a 105 shes quick enough for me.. Even if I had known when I looked at her she wasnt a 130 I still would have bought her. She is mint inside and out and sitting on 28 thousand miles..Spent most of her life in the Isle of Wight as far as I know. Only rust was the battery tray which has been replaced. She has the MX75 box and the full leather wing back interior.. So that little sticker on the inlet pipe duped me lol.

Fordmad! 11-09-2015 01:36 PM

Be good to get some pics up! 130s are rare now all been broke for the engines. My mate had a red si went really well. The escort GTIS sgould of had the 130 engine in really

mattxr3i 11-09-2015 02:01 PM

130 spec engine will have RQB stamped on the head

cos 4x4 11-09-2015 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by morg65 (Post 6622841)
Thanks again 1-PD.
Will check it out...I am concerned because I have ordered a complete stock exhaust for her. She had a really loud boy racer pipe on her and at 50 yo its embarrassing hehe.
I am hoping that the parts between the 105 and 130 are interchangeable...In short..Will the exhaust I ordered for the 130 spec be ok if she turns out to be a 105.?
Thanks again.
Morg.

Have been breaking these for the past couple of years. No difference in cats and exhaust so nothing to worry about. Abs was an option and to tell if you have it you will have a separate ecu type module in the scuttle tray drivers side right behind the engine and a separate block under the brake servo. All 130 cars come with rear disc and drum brake

cos 4x4 11-09-2015 08:05 PM


Originally Posted by mattxr3i (Post 6623032)
130 spec engine will have RQB stamped on the head

Where on the head is it stamped?

mattxr3i 11-09-2015 08:40 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5.../130headPB.jpg


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