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Mad Matt 25-08-2007 06:23 PM

Sapphire Cosworth 4x4 rally shell
 
I know it may be the wrong section, but it will attract more people because it is quite a hard task I have to do :

finding a sapphire cosworth rally shell, but I would need ultimatly is a group a shell. Of course finding works shell is unpossible, but finding some shells done by Ford for private-drivers is easier now.

So please if you know any group a saph shell for sale (4x4) send me a PM or email at : webmaster@xenshots.net

Thanks in advance and sorry for advertising this here. :oops:

:D

dave cos4x4 25-08-2007 06:25 PM

have a word with Tim Finch, he may be able to help you. :top:

think he is Cosworth Rallyesport on here iirc.

RichardPON 25-08-2007 06:25 PM

They aren't too difficult to find.

I had one once........... why do I miss that car? :cry:

Mad Matt 25-08-2007 06:29 PM

Aren't too difficult to find ? Well I mean real shells, not poor roll cages mate, if you see what I mean. I already have some ex-works items, so getting the shell would be a great addition, a shame Mr. finch sold an ex-biasion shell few months back as he said, because I would have bought it.

I wish I could find one of François Delecour's saph somewhere, or another Biasion car ! :D

RichardPON 25-08-2007 06:32 PM

Real shells?

I had an ex-Ford Motorsport Biasion car. Does that count? I also have his seat out of his WRC Escort.

Mad Matt 25-08-2007 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by RichardPON
Real shells?

I had an ex-Ford Motorsport Biasion car. Does that count?

It is exactly what I meant mate. :top:

cozzfather 25-08-2007 09:37 PM

Xen i recently saw a ex Patrick Snijers R.A.S sierra for sale
was a complete car,and still in belgium,
i will keep a look out
but it seems a shame you missed the one Tim had :cry:

Mad Matt 26-08-2007 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by cozzfather
Xen i recently saw a ex Patrick Snijers R.A.S sierra for sale
was a complete car,and still in belgium,
i will keep a look out
but it seems a shame you missed the one Tim had :cry:

Yes I think I see which one you mean, a white/blue one from a belgium guy (i just can't find the pic on my computer). I sold him my group a turbo, but after getting it, he said he hadn't any need of it so he sent me back, but yet never gave me shipping cost back.

Yes a shame I missed the one Tim Finch sold, but I am sure there are others around.

:)

Mad Matt 30-09-2007 08:45 AM

Seems unpossible to find a works shell or a real group A saph (not a home-modified one)... :?

I have had a contact who told me he had a "motorsport shell" (don't know what he meant, but still) and now he tells me he sold it. :cry:

:wall:

cozzfather 04-10-2007 01:49 PM

Xen, would you be interested in the ex Patrick Snijers sierra if still for sale?
all patricks cars were full factory specification and if still the original bodyshell they were from Boreham,i know a guy who worked at R-A-S and he told me :DD:

Mad Matt 04-10-2007 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by cozzfather
Xen, would you be interested in the ex Patrick Snijers sierra if still for sale?
all patricks cars were full factory specification and if still the original bodyshell they were from Boreham,i know a guy who worked at R-A-S and he told me :DD:

Hey mate,

Yes I would be very interested. I got an email from a guy the other day (Mr. Halley, maybe its the man you are talking about), he is selling a R-A-S shell, car is red/blue maybe its the car you are talking about.

But yes if you can give me more details (maybe in PM ?) I would be pleased.

:)

Tony Ryan 04-10-2007 06:14 PM

Sorry i cant help with a shell right now , if its originality youre after then i have this safari spec gpA Sapphire rad tho ?
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0...n/ad00000e.jpg

Mad Matt 05-10-2007 04:10 PM

Yes I may be interested, because if I can get THE proper shell, I will go for a gravel setup so will need some serious (strong) material. :)

Micky The Finn 05-10-2007 06:07 PM


Originally Posted by Tony Ryan
Sorry i cant help with a shell right now , if its originality youre after then i have this safari spec gpA Sapphire rad tho ?
https://img.photobucket.com/albums/0...n/ad00000e.jpg

ive a few of the old copper lumps as well. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Micky The Finn 05-10-2007 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by RichardPON
Real shells?

I had an ex-Ford Motorsport Biasion car. Does that count? I also have his seat out of his WRC Escort.

miki in a world car,what was he doing?getting it off the trailer for sainz?

because he wasnt rallying it thats for sure. :cry: :cry:

Mad Matt 05-10-2007 07:11 PM

Well first looking for a shell, then we'll see... Already pointed out my finger on some proper items, but waiting to get a real shell before starting to buy the "huge group a wrc group n big specs special mega rally pukka" parts... :cry:

Speedy G. 05-10-2007 07:22 PM

I know of a genuine Grp A Delecour Sierra Cosworth but it's not for sale.

https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC_0005.jpg
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC_0006.jpg
https://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b...7/DSC_0010.jpg

Mad Matt 05-10-2007 07:28 PM

Err I already have this and as I see its missing in the car, so maybe I could give him the seat, and get the car !

http://www.xenshots.net/images/sparco1.jpg

Awesome car btw, are you sure its not for sale ?

:cry:

Mad Matt 06-10-2007 12:48 PM

I wish it was the real one :

http://www.rallyinguk.com/rather-spe...-car-i949.html

:cry:

Speedy G. 06-10-2007 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by Xen
Err I already have this and as I see its missing in the car, so maybe I could give him the seat, and get the car !

http://www.xenshots.net/images/sparco1.jpg

Awesome car btw, are you sure its not for sale ?

:cry:

I'm defo sure that it's not for sale but make a bid and I'll pass it on. :)

Dan 06-10-2007 03:00 PM

What's the red bracket at the front of it?

Mad Matt 06-10-2007 03:20 PM

Front crossmember. ;)

cozzfather 08-10-2007 11:12 AM

Xen, i can't find the original advert for the Snijers car for sale in
Belgium, i will send a pm with the link to the car, there is a photo
it may now be owned by someone else,sorry i can't speak belgian ;)

Mad Matt 08-10-2007 05:15 PM

Thank you for helping cozzfather, yes I had seen the car for sale, 20'000euros but I had troubles with the seller which are still under "investigation" (he has to send me 130euros for 2 months now but won't enter too much in details)...

Mad Matt 11-11-2007 02:14 PM

I got offered an ex-works shell (Delecour) at a rather low price. Seller told me he hasn't got documents of the car, and shell is in "medium" conditions, only got 3 pictures, here they are, do you think it would be a real ex-works car or just pure shit. Looking at the dash makes me think this can be a sort of ATM-mega-909-group-a-wrc-monster-part... :cry:

Asked for more pics, but while waiting for them, do you recon it could be the car ? Pictures of the inside of the REAL car would be helpful :

http://www.xenshots.net/images/DSCF6109.jpg

http://www.xenshots.net/images/DSCF6110.jpg

Here is what the car should be :

http://www.xenshots.net/images/49e9_1.jpg

:)

Micky The Finn 11-11-2007 02:18 PM

that dash has the quick release fittings for the push studs that a boreham car would use,ignore the carbon aboove the vents thats not original,rear cage section looks as per works car but cannot see 100%,got any pictures of the engine bay?

Micky The Finn 11-11-2007 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Xen
Front crossmember. ;)

nope,sumpguard mounting bracket with lobster claw and front towing eye. ;)

Mad Matt 11-11-2007 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
that dash has the quick release fittings for the push studs that a boreham car would use,ignore the carbon aboove the vents thats not original,rear cage section looks as per works car but cannot see 100%,got any pictures of the engine bay?

Unfortunetly these are all the pics I got yet, asked him for more. Unfortunetly he ain't got any mechanical part. Shell price is ok I think, considering it was an ex-delecour car (according to the guy). 3000£. But as I know you sold ex-works shell for less than a grand it makes me wondering if I should really look at that shell or wait for another great "bargin" ! :? :)

Micky The Finn 11-11-2007 02:25 PM

how is it worth £3000 then????????????????????

i sold the x colin mcrea one at new year last year for £750.

Mad Matt 11-11-2007 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Cosworth Rallyesport
how is it worth £3000 then????????????????????

i sold the x colin mcrea one at new year last year for £750.

Indeed this is why I wasn't that much enthusiast about this shell, because the price is quite high compared to what I have seen there. I should wait until I come accross a nice one at a nice price. If you got any Tim I would be greatful if you could tell me. :)

Know we had few words in the past, but hell we have the same passion and you've got tons of more relations and address in the business. You will surely find what I am looking for sonner than me.

:)

cozzfather 11-11-2007 10:23 PM

colin drove quite a few cosworths that belonged to rich old blokes
who couldn't drive as good as colin,or they thought it was good for
buisness him driving their car, a R-E-D car only had so much support
from Ford, but Delacour was doing the wrc in the Kuwait Sierra
and the car was the real deal Ford Motorsport
if its a real q8 delacour shell imo its somthing to keep hold of Xen

Micky The Finn 11-11-2007 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by cozzfather
colin drove quite a few cosworths that belonged to rich old blokes
who couldn't drive as good as colin,or they thought it was good for
buisness him driving their car, a R-E-D car only had so much support
from Ford, but Delacour was doing the wrc in the Kuwait Sierra
and the car was the real deal Ford Motorsport
if its a real q8 delacour shell imo its somthing to keep hold of Xen

but the one i sold had his name and address on the logbook. :eek:

cozzfather 11-11-2007 11:47 PM

yeah i know, bainsy dropped a big pair of bollocks with that one.
also the mcraes used to have a company called McRae motorsport
that did a bit with cosworths,in the late 80's early 1990's.
was that cosworth a mcrae motorsport car originally Tim??
Colin fucked about fixing anybodys rallycar
also selling them in between rallying if a drive was available.
if colin drove for ford in a sierra in the wrc as a official driver
that sierra would be worth a lot more than a delacour shell imo

better to get a ex works car now than when they start doing
big money.

i have seen a group a martini ford escort cosworth for 95k euros
thats 95 not 9 and a half, its in original livery, look at any old genuine
ford rs rallycar in original livery and then tell me if 3 grand is cheep
or too dear

Xen.. watch this tribute to Delacour for a peep at the Kuwait sierra
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...ncois+delecour

;)


jsut noticed this post has been moved and i can no longer reply
so have had to edit a old post...


xen the car franco cunico drove was the tamoil sierra
franco was top bananna in a sierra cosworth

here is the Kuwait Sierra driven by Francois
nice side exit exhaust :DD:

https://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j...rd20Sierra.jpg

Mad Matt 13-11-2007 09:35 AM

Have no access of my email box here in army, so can't see if he's sent me new pics, but 3k£ in the shell alone in medium condition is quite some money. I wish I hadn't see the prices of some real rally shells there because 3k£ looks quite expensive for the shell ALONE.

Will keep you informed on this, and Tim I wish you could add my email or profile in your "favourite" so if you come accross a nice shell point me on it.

:) :clap:

Mad Matt 17-11-2007 10:45 AM

Checked my emails and he told me he will take some pics next week, but told me that the car was bought in 1992 by a big italian team for the Italian Rally Championship (Cunico drove it).

Waiting for new pics. :)

Mad Matt 28-11-2007 04:24 PM

BTT :D

Still no news regarding the Delecour shell yet. :)

Mad Matt 09-12-2007 03:49 PM

I should get pictures next week, but in the mean time I am still looking for a caged shell in good state, Ford Motorsport one or a group A specs one.

:D

Mad Matt 22-12-2007 08:19 AM

BTT for a group A saph shell (if possible Ford Motorsport) ! :D

Mad Matt 19-01-2008 03:12 PM

UP ! :D :D

Mad Matt 23-03-2008 04:40 PM

BTT :)


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