SE are shite build quality,and the other place down the road form them (oh forgotten there name now ) there much better quality and i here the level of customer service isnt too bad either! just on the zvh/ 1600 cvh Q ,I went out in a 2.1 zvh last nite for the first time and to be honest i had a s2 that was built by dean at sheppard motors and i can say there wernt much in it between the two ,dont get me wrong it was smooth but a good solid 1600 cvh built with the correct internals etc.... would probly be the same near enuff!