ok ok ...thanks for the input..

Right...when i said light, i didnt mean ultra lightweight etc. What i meant was lighter than the 90 quid jobs in halfords!

Seriously aint paying more than 500 on both bikes...its not the money, its the fact that we might do a couple of rides and think fook it, and go to the boozer

If we do, and we prob will enjoy, then we can upgrade later. Been looking at diamond backs in the argos.....any views?