ok cheers m8.

heres the background.

turn the key to position 3 and the starter doesnt move. Not even a click. Anything driven off position 1 goes off (as normal while they key is in position 3)

There is nothing wrong with the car as it wil bump start and is completly fine. I suspect either immobiliser has packed up on that circuit or starter is fooked. So wanted to see if it will crank over with just a direct live on that small wire to discount any problems with immobiliser.