yeah got 2 of them mate one i would consider as part time drummer (ie does it fitz and spurtz) and is competant but by no means an expert (used to play in a band with mate but were shite IMO) and my older bros is pretty good and played with a band for years gigging round the pubs and he's pretty good. he's married now and plays purely as a diversion from the mundane things in life

Graham (scoob's bros) is really good by all accounts (session standard) and as you prolly know scoob's is pretty good on the guitar. aint heard him play in a while but he's been doing more bass stuff and it's really improved his lead play.