Yeah, but the fact is, xbconnect is free and ive had no probs with it and i can play online which is the main thing on xbox live at end of the day........if i paid for xbconnect, i expect id get more out of it than what you would get with xbox live....simply because it woulden't be by microsoft. but seen as its free and can still play players online just like xbox live, gotta be better surely!