I think Stu is right as I live in Barrow just think of the money I could save on petrol and spend it on the car rather than drive all the way round the sodding A590, and you hit the nail right on the head Itsmeagain we are right in the middle of no fookin where wanting to get out quicker rather than traveling along that fookin A590 that has more accidents than vanessa felts (bad spelling) has hot dinners