Ok folks Looks like apologies are in order over the ET 35mm, seems like i got the wrong end of the stick. As for the spacer issue with the softlines, its a 91 J 4x4 with 278 mm vented discs and cossie calipers and the 17" RS 7 spokes definately would not fit straight on and i'm not the only 4x4 owner who's had to use spacers as it was another 4by owner who told me i'd need shims..... and he was right, anyway sorry for being stubborn

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