ah too far from Barnet, thanks though , need a very local place ie next day turn around or same day - ive found some one who does fabrications and welding if its any help to anyone opposite paint shop, behind JET on Bounces Road N9 - GRAVITUNE - he did my zetec sump turbo return - very nice - £40 WITH A tap at rear - that wud prob be tu=pence up t'north (sorry) ha ha ...Thanks for your reply @Twins