ok..............so i went and put 6 more jerry cans (30 litres) of new 98 octane juice in.....started and ran first turn of the key...pump sounded stronger on the prime too.

i feel stupid posting this reply but relieved too, like you said pete the low fuel (it did have fuel in ).....it musn't have created enough to get up to pressure...
although i did undo that dodgy twisted together brown lead from the cold start and it cut out, connected again and starts and runs sevearl times, have ran it for about 5 minutes at a time to burn grease and dust of the exhaust...idling at 2500rpm, maybe it will drop when it gets warm, didnt want to run too long as radiator leaking (next job on list) and not a lot of airflow in the shed...
also its pissing oil from the pressure switch above the oil filter and aalternator sounds rattly....but its running, not been driven since 2012, once i do rear suspension bushes i can take it for a squirt up the street......

THANKS SO MUCH for your help OAPETE