Originally Posted by
massivewangers
A standard Cossie probably wouldn't see which way a Fiesta ST went, let alone any of the others
See your point about looks. Cossies appeal to middle aged men who couldn't afford them when they were young, but the rest of the world has moved on
I'd say we're doing pretty well these days judging by this list:
Fiesta ST - 200bhp (with a dealer upgrade available to make it 215bhp)
Focus ST - 250bhp (with a dealer upgrade available to make it 275bhp)
Focus RS - 350bhp
Mustang GT - 415bhp
GT - 600+bhp
Fiesta ST Plus is almost certain now too by the sound of it. That's got to be looking at 220-230bhp I would have thought. And who says Mountune won't offer a sneaky upgrade for the Focus RS? There's already talk of an upgraded one from Ford themselves to match the Golf R 400 that might be coming. 400bhp Focus with a warranty anyone?
Shall I not mention the fact they undercut all their rivals on price too?
For a company that has "lost the plot" I think they sound like they're doing ok...
i can't find the article that states that the fiesta st is possibly the best car in the world right now but i'm still looking for it, driving a diseasal fiesta mk7 around on a daily basis i can see where they are ocming from though, it's a great little car, if it was quicker i'd be looking to buy one in a heartbeat, handling is brilliant and the effortless way it can tackle most road conditions is amazing
Originally Posted by
mk22door
I'll hold my hand up to that.
I think the main thing is that the new Focus RS doesn't look aggressive like the mk2, I think any one of us driving the new one would love it but it just doen't look like like a beast. I think that's one of the main dissapointments for most?
First impressons and all that?
But this was probably said in the eighties after the 3 door with the Saff on the horizon.
In time it will be loved.
I know two people in my local RS club who've sold their mk2's so they could order the new one. And they are very excited.
I reckon the Ford brand is probably doing well for itself right now, Ken Block has all the street cred to get young people with spare cash both sides of the Atlantic spending on ST's and RS's. Whilst M-sport give genuine WRC credability too.
the sort of person who wants a fast sporty car nowadays is a businessman type, so no loud shouty spoilers, it's a more descreet look they are going for, it leads to more upmarket buyers with more money to spend and therefore more sales
business talk though isn't a concern to folks who want flames popping out of the exhaust and the looks of an alien spaceship