Don't think anyone is knocking you rod, my main point was that if someone like Martin or Harvey have built their cars, do they could as having been built or bought?

If you were a builder and built your house rather than had someone build a house for you or you simply went out and bought what you liked, where is the line drawn that you've done it yourself?

Too many people out the sticker on because they've put in a stereo or changed the wheels, so what is actually "built"?

Think you've been a bit harsh on Steve in that post mate, even though I get the sentiment