OK, realistically we are on a budget which we do plan to stick to. Have been looking at this: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...368835-6289402

Looks just what we are after, something small and with an easy to use touch screen think the mini dv format will be cool. Now im a bit more clued up on mini dv and all the formats, going to pop into our local hughes at lunch to get a feel of the cam and more help on it. Quite a good price tbh, and will do all we need (purely just for holidays and me using it for car shows etc) I can link it direct to the pc and pull the video off it and slap them on to dvd when I get a dvd burner too

Cheers