thanks, its got nothing with it, ie starter,alternator manifold etc, but thank you for looking, would a 1.4 escort engine fit the gearbox, and can u pull the engine out of a cab without removeing gearbox, i did not last time but dropped everything with suspension, it neads a new front piece so thought of cutting it all away, pulling engine out through the front if it will cleargearbox shaft, im sure i pulled one out years ago and left gearbox in, thanks again