Used them for 20 odd years now ,as we go skiing and need them in europe ,BEST winter mod you will ever do ,even spot on in standing water no aqua planing ,and good in dry conditions aswell ,we have michelins at the moment and they are great have them on a set of 16" alloys 205/55/16 so we just swop off the 18" wheels 225/40/18 for the winter nov till april